Thread: NZP have published their first update on their Firearms review...

This sounds as though Police HQ are effectively blind and have no real effective control of either process or their people . So they have hired someone to fix a broken system .
They also seem to admit that there has been a "loss" of control of firearms controls in that every time they re jig their team the opposition still manage to get through their defences . Just what the outcome of this can go either way of more or less legislation ?.
And Firearms ownership is a Right that is subject to Law , as stated in the Bill of Rights 1869 not a privilege even though it only mentions Proddy's .

Firearms laws are a sinking lid. We will never see a reversal of control, in saying that I'd love to be proved wrong. If the MSSA controls have been a failure and they can no longer make a realistic distinction between them and "sporting rifles" you have to ask yourself where too from here. You first need to define what the failure might actually be, since there are rarely any high profile criminal events involving MSSA's (or even sporting semi autos?). Failed to meet some obscure UN agreement? Failure to meet some political forces ideology? They need to be more up front and transparent with what their goals actually are.

maybe time to try and get my E-cat endorsement

This is really nothing to do with real gun control , they donot control the criminal use of guns , they can however impact the law abiding , this is pure and simple people control .
Criminals donot abide by any Laws , they are however not stupid , IF it was the nz GovT intention to reduce people using firearms to kill , all they would have to do , is make a multiplier to add on to any offence , ie say 3x , so say the std time for murder is 15yrs , multiply it by 3x just because a fireamt is used , and you get 45yrs , no time off , no suspended sentences .
Over nite , most murders would use , axe, screw driver , bow , machette , hatchet , etc , you get the idea , simple & sorted .

This is people control , all we have seen , over the yrs are more & more restrictive laws in reguarding firearms & most other things as well , we have lost a lot of so called freedoms over the yrs , and we are worse off for it , not better .

We have also seen a lot of good old cops , retire , and the people replacing them are not as good , or not being allowed to be as good , we use to have a lot of so called common sense , not longer .

In the end they will do as they please , with little to no reguard for the real citizens , we are unfortuntally ( the silent law abiding majority ) , being treated like we are the problem .

It use to be if it was shown to be a mistake , like the idea of registration etc , we could point to countries that had done it , and the facts are it cost a mountain of cash , and firearm offences went up , not down , look at Aussie / Canada etc , that was enough , and the idea was scrapped .

Now , the facts that something will not work , and is wrong , dosnt matter at all , just Lucky Spook is not a Kiwi & is dead , or his head would explode from the lack of Logic being applied here .

And thats truelly such a shame , but it is what it is , what we need is actually our own Party , and for all sportmen & women to vote them , maybe one day we could be as big as the Greens , BUt be a bit more sensible & smarter .

Rant Off

I forgot , GOOOO MMP