Thread: Remington Filing for Receivership in the States

Originally Posted by mimms2

66, 597. 870. 700 annd the 11- shotties.
asides from them, yeah, pretty much all shit.
Oh. and .223, 22-250, 260, 7-08, 25-06 cartridges.
but asides feom them, all shit.

You forgot the 44mag and 7mm rem mag, both good cartridges too.

Agree with @Friwi that the 260 was a missed opportunity for Remington. A great cartridge that was ahead of its time, but rendered somewhat obsolete by Hornady’s slick marketing and strong factory ammo selection with the Creedmoor

Originally Posted by TeRei

A notable gun Forum in the USA has a special section for Tikka rifles. It is probably the most used section after the Reloading section.I have read it for a number of years. No mention ever of Remington rifles.Then again Tikka is doing to Sako what it deserves.

Tikka and Sako are branches of the same company and share manufacturing facilities, a bit like Chevrolet and GMC. It doesn't much matter which brand sells best as it all goes into the same pockets in the end! Remington is like a lot of companies that are top heavy in managerial and techno-geek staff, employ trained monkeys for production, and light in good common-sense tradesmen! They are the masters of their own demise. You only need to look at their range of failed models and quality control issues over the last 30 years. It is only the M700, 870, and 11/87 production that has carried them through and they have had a few problems with them as well!

Originally Posted by Mauser308

I dunno, my 700P shoots less than 1/2" at 100 as reliably as I can. Which is to say a better operator could probably get much better results. I'd consider that competitive with everything else?

It's not all 700s that are the problem. The recent SPS models can be very ordinary, but the higher end 700s are nice rifles. I don't think there's too much debate about that.

What we must remember is that Remington's product range is highly diversified, across the full monty of bolt rifles, semis, shotguns, pistols, ammo, accessories and so on. And they have manufacturing plants all over the place, and a HQ somewhere different altogether. I can tell you from multinational corporate experience, that when senior management / marketing / sales / logistics / HR / IT / finance etc are separated from the cornerstone manufacturing capability, it's a recipe for disaster. "Us Versus Them" culture is inevitable, and destructive, and highly inefficient!

Originally Posted by Mauser308

I dunno, my 700P shoots less than 1/2" at 100 as reliably as I can. Which is to say a better operator could probably get much better results. I'd consider that competitive with everything else?

Every maker has made some very accurate rifles. The question is do they do it consistently. Remington does not have that reputation. for the last 12 years that I have been a firearms consumer, Sako, Tikka, Savage, CZ, Howa all have better reputation for consistant quality than Remington.

So...if you were part of Remington management under new ownership and given a free hand to keep what worked well and sold well and bin the rest, what would go and what would stay?

Depends who wins the election...

But the fundamentals of the 700 action and barrel manufacturing, keep it, absolutely. Just tighten up the QAQC. Which means employing people who give a shit.

Get rid of some of the marketing guys and start catching up with the new calibres available before missing the train again.