Thread: : Snipers vs. Competition Shooters

It's not so much about the shooting. More about the skill to determine if it is a legal target in asplir second.

There's a fine line between murder and target down.

...Internet war-ankers

Originally Posted by propfwd

A couple of notes to take into account from someone who has operated with the US military on a regular basis for over 10 years back in the 1980s-2000s

Righto, since you decided to go there.

In which units did you "operate" ?
What was your specific role in those units ?

Originally Posted by Norway

...Internet war-ankers

Fantastic term Norway +1

Perhaps a bit rude and certainly off the hip as I havent read the wholethread properly.

Just seems that it deviates a lot from the original intentions (shot on paper, how well?) by adressing sniper subjects/problems in great detail without much insight or perhaps even relevance?

Off-season hunting forum idling???

I've just read the first 4 of the 16 pages of this. If it didn't improve between 4-16, this truly is a shit thread.

Originally Posted by Tahr

I've just read the first 4 of the 16 pages of this. If it didn't improve between 4-16, this truly is a shit thread.

It didn't improve Tahr.

Originally Posted by Norway

Perhaps a bit rude and certainly off the hip as I havent read the wholethread properly.

Just seems that it deviates a lot from the original intentions (shot on paper, how well?) by adressing sniper subjects/problems in great detail without much insight or perhaps even relevance?

Off-season hunting forum idling???

Im glad you correctly noted that Norway as many didnt . as my original post said "interesting observation" nothing more !! lol
I think the most interesting thing from this was identifying that some in the USA forces dont get to shoot as much as they might !

Jeez EB, I bet you were an annoying kid. I have never heard anyone ask so many questions

haha well after the thread turned into Frankenstein thought may as well as there are some interesting characters here lol
Still beats me how it went from rounds on paper to comparing feildcraft

The Big thing not one person on this thread has bothered to mention and it probably based on the Hollywood crap is that the majority of target shooters spent a pile of cash on their race guns in all categories of shooting not just long range stuff and military snipers do not have this luxury. Yes an Accuracy Intl AW is a good rifle as is an M24 or M40 etc however they are not custom fit to the individual sniper as both he and his spotter are expected to be able to swap rolls as needed. Also the sniper rifles are not assigned to an individual for his sole use. Police snipers are closer to the Target shooters in that they tend to be assigned a rifle for their sole use however that is due to the smaller numbers involved. As for EBFs demands I will not go there other to say I served 11 years in the Canadian Armed forces in the regular force not reserves and spent several weeks every year operating and training with the US military and if he is upset that someone had the spin to call the US standards of training out too bad the best thing to happen for the US military has been the Second Iraq and Afghanistan wars as they have had to correct the standards that had been allowed to creep in since Vietnam.

Originally Posted by propfwd

As for EBFs demands I will not go there other to say I served 11 years in the Canadian Armed forces in the regular force not reserves and spent several weeks every year operating and training with the US military and if he is upset that someone had the spin to call the US standards of training out too bad the best thing to happen for the US military has been the Second Iraq and Afghanistan wars as they have had to correct the standards that had been allowed to creep in since Vietnam.

prop, I am questioning YOUR credentials, you can make whatever claims you wish about the quality of training of US units compared to other countries.

the internet, and especially sites such as this is unfortunately full of war-ankers (cheers Norway) and wanabe rambos.

your initial post contained enough factual inaccuracies for me to question you...

you can go the standard wannabe route and claim that you were in such a super-secret unit that you can't disclose your service details, or maybe it was so super-secret that all the files were destroyed (yet another wannabe tactic). or, you can man up and simply state what capacity you served in and how that gives you the background and cred to be taken seriously. if you were an actual operator in a spec-ops team, PM me your operators badge number, this can easily be checked with the relevant association, and I will publicly apologize to you. if you served in a regular unit, you should have no problem saying something like "I served with xxx unit, as a front-line infantryman, and saw action in zzz. but then again maybe you were an admin clerk and never saw any combat ?

the ball is in your court

Guys there is nothing to be gained carrying on this thread