Thread: Tikka 3 lite 270

Oh dear...the rifle sold to you as the 'top of the line' yesterday will now be 'hard to sell piece of shit' today.

Originally Posted by Spook

Oh dear...the rifle sold to you as the 'top of the line' yesterday will now be 'hard to sell piece of shit' today.

I'm sure not even hunting and fishing would describe tikka as "top of the line"
If the salesman told you the 270 was a good target shooting caliber id go punch him in the nose

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Mmm. To be honest mate I think you have rushed into this without asking or studying up on the facts. A shame as there are some real knowledgable pricks right here that would have helped big time with a LR rig.
The T3's I've owned have booted. I'm no expert but I think it's in the cheap stock design. Especially the .270. I think to be fair if you braked it and put a limbsaver on it and possibly a new stock i.e. Bell and Carlson or something else on it it will become a dream to shoot. When more money can be found that is.
Also a new rifle can 'often' settle with use and time with it. However a lightweight 'hunting' rig like the T3 in 270 will only occasionally become a mean long range shooter.
Good luck me bro!

Originally Posted by Jackangus

Just bought a Tikka 3 today, and was told by the salesperson the 270 would be good for target shooting especially long range like 1k.
I have been to the range today and fired standard ammo $40 for 20, Hormandy American Whitetail. Was not that impressed with the results as yet, granted I only fired 28 rounds.

First I used about 10 rounds to really zero the rifle in at 100m, then me and a mate had 5 rounds each at the bull. Which made it hard to tell what any type of grouping was like. Once that was done I patched up the holes and fired a 4 round group which was 1.4 moa and then fired 4 rounds at 200m and the grouping was 3.7moa.
There was little wind and it was a reasonably hot day.

What should I expect with a new rifle? I know Tikka guarantee a 3 shot 1 moa.
I am a decent shot, and can get between 1moa and 2moa all day in those conditions with a .22 at 100m, so I expected quite a bit better with a Tikka 270.
Am I being unrealistic?

Also, it wasted my shoulder today firing the rifle, Is there a way for to not have a bruised shoulder after firing 20 rounds?
Am I doing something wrong, or is that what you have to put up with with a 270 calibre?

Cheers guys, any feedback would be welcomed.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Earlier in the year I brought a new rifle in a bigger calibre than I had owned in last 20 years. It was a lightweight M700 based rifle.
Well I had to essentially learn to to shoot again as it was very lively off the bench to say the least. My groups were larger than I expected but I put this down to the "ME Factor"
With the muzzle brake on its very light on recoil but bloody noisy.
I actually prefer to shoot with out the brake but you really have to concentrate of your technique. I cant shoot it for poo without holding the fore end.
Ammo quality is very important, You most likely won't get 1000m accuracy like you are expecting from cheap vanilla ammo.

All Tikkas I have seen have shot really well. Try some good quality ammo

For 1000m shooting I might have chosen something like the 308, good quality ammo is cheaper, less recoil and you can buy top quality federal match ammo reasonably easily.
This is of course assuming you are shooting steel and paper targets.

If you you are shooting live animals then the 270 is a better bet but there are other much better calibres for that although the price of ammo is not cheap for them.
What scope are you using. It is hard to shoot good groups with a low power scope without practice. Cant hit what you can't see

And finally the "Salesman" will tell you exactly what you want to hear so you will part with your money.

Very few gun salesman (in my humble opinion) have much actual experience in all areas of shooting. Some may be experienced hunters (more likely) than others who shoot at long range AND are successful or do other shooting disciplines

Bottom line
You have a good rifle, feed it some good ammo, fit a limbsaver, get some practical advice on technique and go shoot it.

If it's any help just suppressing my t3 .270 turned my rifle into a dream shooter. This is the day before Xmas and after adjusting there is 3 shots in that bottom grouping. And I'm no target shooter. Ammos 130gr federal


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Originally Posted by Danny

Mmm. To be honest mate I think you have rushed into this without asking or studying up on the facts. A shame as there are some real knowledgable pricks right here that would have helped big time with a LR rig.
The T3's I've owned have booted. I'm no expert but I think it's in the cheap stock design. Especially the .270. I think to be fair if you braked it and put a limbsaver on it and possibly a new stock i.e. Bell and Carlson or something else on it it will become a dream to shoot. When more money can be found that is.
Also a new rifle can 'often' settle with use and time with it. However a lightweight 'hunting' rig like the T3 in 270 will only occasionally become a mean long range shooter.
Good luck me bro!

You are 100% right Danny, I did rush into it it, was an impulse buy.
The crazy thing is I knew that most people said buy a 308, but I let the salesperson talk me into the 270.
I will see today if I can swap calibers for a penalty of $100 or something.
Don't like my chances but will ask anyway, they will probably want $300 or something.

Tell him that under the CGA (or whatever it is called) that the rifle did not do what he claimed.
Just out of curiosity, what method of 'breaking in' did you use?

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Originally Posted by Spook

Tell him that under the CGA (or whatever it is called) that the rifle did not do what he claimed.
Just out of curiosity, what method of 'breaking in' did you use?

I just fired 28 shots through it. So it probably isn't anywhere near broken in yet.
I am more worried about the kick and people saying it isn't a very good target rifle.
I would imagine the groups would get tighter with experience, and the right ammo, and after a few more rounds through the barrel.
By what you guys are saying it is the wrong rifle for the job.

Good luck mate!
Will you be loading? I read somewhere you may be. If so the 7mm08 may be a better option in the T3 so you can load 7mm bullets and possibly play later with developing an improved calibre on that platform.
But the 308 is my favourite calibre. For good reason.
It's the best!
But that's for hunting mainly.

Originally Posted by Jackangus

I just fired 28 shots through it. So it probably isn't anywhere near broken in yet.
I am more worried about the kick and people saying it isn't a very good target rifle.
I would imagine the groups would get tighter with experience, and the right ammo, and after a few more rounds through the barrel.
By what you guys are saying it is the wrong rifle for the job.

28 rounds through it without any breaking in process, and you want it to be a target rifle?...jam it in the ground and use it for a tomato stake.

Originally Posted by Spook

28 rounds through it without any breaking in process, and you want it to be a target rifle?...jam it in the ground and use it for a tomato stake.

Steady on. Half say it's absolutely necessary. The other half say waste of time.
Looking for advice not a hanging.

Oh sorry, I didn't realize that a poll had been taken. I would have thought the variation would have been greater than 50/50 in some form of breaking in.
The man has not been too good at taking advice so far and so deserves a bit of stick.
Hopefully when he takes it back he tells the salesman of any shortcomings so that the salesman can give an 'honest' opinion to the next buyer.

Originally Posted by Spook

Oh sorry, I didn't realize that a poll had been taken. I would have thought the variation would have been greater than 50/50 in some form of breaking in.
The man has not been too good at taking advice so far and so deserves a bit of stick.
Hopefully when he takes it back he tells the salesman of any shortcomings so that the salesman can give an 'honest' opinion to the next buyer.

Even without breaking in the Tikka, it comes with a MOA guarantee anyway, so should fire right out of the box under MOA. And like I said before it is the recoil that pissed me off the most not the groupings, and breaking the rifle in will do sweet fuck all for that.
I did say it was crazy of me to buy the 270, but we all get sucked into buying something that isn't quite right at some time or other.

Good luck getting it sorted man. I think you have a good case under the consumer guarantees act of the item sold not being fit for purpose.

A 308 will likely be the best choice givin the availability of factory stuff. 6.5x55 or 260 are as LR cpabale and boot less but have crappy factory ammo selection so are more an option if you intend to reload

That being said even the humble 308 will boot a bit and over a long session cause shooter fatigue. Its just the reality of the lighweight factory tikka stocks.
Even throwing a cheapy boyds laminates thumbhole will make a big difference to the felt recoil over a factory stock.

If it really is for LR only then throwing a bit more cash at it and getting a long varmint/target contour barreled factory rig might be worthwhile. Savage tikka and howa all offer them at pretty reasonable prices.
The extra weight and heavier barrel will all work to keep felt recoil down