Thread: Tikka 3 lite 270

Originally Posted by ebf

Dougie, the problem is quite simple really

It is not the caliber, it is the fact that you are trying to build a single rifle...

P.S. my vote still goes for 300 blaser Mag. If you want a single multi-purpose hunting / LR gong gun - that's the ticket IMHO.

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Originally Posted by ebf

Dougie, the problem is quite simple really

It is not the caliber, it is the fact that you are trying to build a single rifle...

P.S. my vote still goes for 7mm Rem Mag. If you want a single multi-purpose hunting / LR gong gun - that's the ticket IMHO.

Like I said, in two weeks it'll be "Oh honey, you WERE right!"

Originally Posted by ebf

Dougie, the problem is quite simple really

It is not the caliber, it is the fact that you are trying to build a single rifle...

P.S. my vote still goes for 7mm Rem Mag. If you want a single multi-purpose hunting / LR gong gun - that's the ticket IMHO.

Originally Posted by Dougie

Like I said, in two weeks it'll be "Oh honey, you WERE right!"

Since when does @ebf call you honey @Dougie

I think your taking it out of context or maybe not....... l

Nothing particularly wrong with the .270, wouldn't be my choice for a target rifle though. I had a husqvarna lightweight re-barrelled from 30-06 to .270. It was the first rifle i could shoot under MOA with at 400 yards with. Sold it on to a mate for his father to use.

If i wanted a single, multi-purpose hunting / LR gong gun then i would probably look at the .284 Winchester over the 7mmRemMag. Efficient case design, good availability of top quality reloading components, excellent range of projectiles, still good past 1200m with less powder, less recoil and without the rimmed case... Whatever floats your boat though - all the calibres are a compromise in some way.

.223 will be ok to 600m, i hope it is a 1:9 twist or tighter so you can use the heavier projectiles but the lighter ones will still get there.

Still be a fair bit of recoil from a 284 Win putting a 160 grain out over 2900 fps though Gillie, don't you think?. Probably same recoil as 7mm Rem mag, especially with rifle around 10 lbs or less.

Maybe a 280 Rem / 7* 64 (both 7mm cals)wouldn't recoil so hard but still put out a 139 gn or 150 gn at 2900 plus with good BC and accuracy and capable of getting a 160 grain out there very quick if needed. Sure, it's a slightly heavier medium 30-06 length action, but a cartridge well proven and all components readily available. No issues with bullet lengths or mag fit. Still around 10lbs plus, weight though to prevent the shooter getting knocked around too much.

These cals, 7mm, 308 cal still like barrel lengths over 24 inch to go well at long range ay.

I agree with your alluding to the 600 metre range. Most shooting is well inside that and shooters who seriously believe they will competently, ethically and regularly shoot beyond 600metres and out to 1000 metres as a matter of course are investing in fairly heavy rifles and scopes and having to accept that they will always be toting a lot of weight unless they are very strong and can stand a lot of recoil punishment if they choose to use light rifles.

Turning a 7mm RM into either a 284 or 7mm08 is a simple case of adjusting your powder dispenser ...

Originally Posted by ebf

Turning a 7mm RM into either a 284 or 7mm08 is a simple case of adjusting your powder dispenser ...

That's very true

Originally Posted by Woody

Still be a fair bit of recoil from a 284 Win putting a 160 grain out over 2900 fps though Gillie, don't you think?. Probably same recoil as 7mm Rem mag, especially with rifle around 10 lbs or less.

Maybe a 280 Rem / 7* 64 (both 7mm cals)wouldn't recoil so hard but still put out a 139 gn or 150 gn at 2900 plus with good BC and accuracy and capable of getting a 160 grain out there very quick if needed. Sure, it's a slightly heavier medium 30-06 length action, but a cartridge well proven and all components readily available. No issues with bullet lengths or mag fit. Still around 10lbs plus, weight though to prevent the shooter getting knocked around too much.

Sorry, Woody. It seems pointless to compare to different cases if you limit the comparison to pushing the same projectile at the same velocity.

The 7mmRemMag will out perform the 284Win ballistically - it can throw the same weight projectile at a higher velocity. The compromise is in what you gain in wind drift and hitting energy vs the increased cost and the recoil. As most of my hunting shots are taken at relatively short ranges i feel the RemMag is a bit of overkill. I am a fan of using one projectile for everything (short and long range... hunting and target shooting) and i think the 284Win would be a good compromise for this (162Amax, 168Berger, 168LRAB, etc). Recoil can be tamed with suppressor or even better a muzzle brake - again both are compromises, the suppressor can over balance a rifle and a brake in the bush can be real loud. Sure the 7mmRemMag will be better at longer distances but a 338 would be better again... everything is a compromise...

Originally Posted by ebf

Turning a 7mm RM into either a 284 or 7mm08 is a simple case of adjusting your powder dispenser ...

Sure, I am a big fan of efficiency though - down loading a calibre isn't an efficient use of that case capacity in my opinion. Also I like a reasonably full case to ensure good powder distribution and ignition without making a flame thrower.

Again, what ever floats your boat...

Fair comment Gillie. I was only referring to recoil for the most part; thinking more of small stature shooters rather than case comparisons.
No worries mate

Originally Posted by Woody

thinking more of small stature shooters rather

whats @Dundee got to do with this ?

Originally Posted by kiwi39

whats @Dundee got to do with this ?

Dunno he is on the remington bandwagon

I shot 3 goats yesterday with a .270 at 300m got 2 in one shot even. Nothing wrong with them

Am I going to stop giving people shit for having one. Nope. Easy to get a bite unlike today on the boat I got a snapper that my hook was about the size of the little pricks head. I'll stick to .270 fishing

Originally Posted by Toby

I shot 3 goats yesterday with a .270 at 300m got 2 in one shot even. Nothing wrong with them

Am I going to stop giving people shit for having one. Nope. Easy to get a bite unlike today on the boat I got a snapper that my hook was about the size of the little pricks head. I'll stick to .270 fishing

So now I have to bash @Gibo on me own?
270s and people that use them are strange IMO


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Originally Posted by BRADS

So now I have to bash @Gibo on me own?
270s and people that use them are strange IMO


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I'll let you in on a little secret, when we went to shoot goats that time he brought the 308 even though he had bugger all ammo left for it because he loved it so much more than the poxy .270

Aye @Gibo