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    Everyone has their own ideas on Deer calibers , but my own opinion is that .25 cal is the smallest hole in the end of the barrel you should use and bullet weight starts at 120gr .
    If you reload and you own a 6.5 06 then download it to 6.55x55 levels or even lower and use a projectile in the 120 - 130 range .

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    A suggestion: for very modest recoil, start with 20-40 rounds of .243 loaded with trailboss at a paper target, and then give Noodle something with a bit more pep for hunting, like a reduced 4895 load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground Control View Post
    Everyone has their own ideas on Deer calibers , but my own opinion is that .25 cal is the smallest hole in the end of the barrel you should use and bullet weight starts at 120gr .
    If you reload and you own a 6.5 06 then download it to 6.55x55 levels or even lower and use a projectile in the 120 - 130 range .

    Ken
    im using nosler ablr 129gr at the moment 44gr 2209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Headroom View Post
    A suggestion: for very modest recoil, start with 20-40 rounds of .243 loaded with trailboss at a paper target, and then give Noodle something with a bit more pep for hunting, like a reduced 4895 load.

    This might help.Attachment 99534
    same as 2206H interesting.
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    45/70 govt i reckon. Mild recoiling

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    +1 for the mighty 243. Noodle is probably not much lighter than TimeRider when I started her on the 243. @Munsey knows how well the light loads I made up for his daughter went on deer too.
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    If thinking of a new rifle Id seriously consider 762x39 or 6.5 grendel the little ruger ranches look quite capable.
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    $65ish to thread the end of another rifle and use the 8mm can....and the 125-130grn loads in .308 work just fine....we use them in the x39mm and deer at bush ranges dont complain they just fall over brown bread.
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    I have 243 and 308, the 14yo boys reckon the 308 doesn't kick too much with mild reloads, though I slip a snapcap round in every now and then to check if they are flinching. Smaller and younger kids I'd go 243 with 85-100gr bullets.
    I reckon a big part of felt recoil is the noise, and good earplugs make a big difference.
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    Speaking from personal experience, the grendel is not a forgiving round for sub optimal shot placement. Which will happen.

    Also from experience a suppressor tames a lot of noise and recoil so use whatever you have that a got one.

    Also from experience, a wounded animal getting away can end a child's interest in hunting.

    A bit of practice with 22LR or airgun will stand him in good stead and show when he's ready to fire at animals. A rule of thumb for HUNTS trainees is to stalk them to under 50m for a goat. None of this 200yd bulls**t please for the first animal.


    Speaking from personal opinion, the 3006 is ideal for a first gun. It has a great margin for error, which is what you need. So, my vote is with the 8x57 full power load and borrow some extra baffles if you can.
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    .243 kills stuff dead, easy to shoot accurately, lots of factory ammo options, weather you are 6 or 60, hunting stags, bucks or Tahr, it will get the job done!
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    Hey Mucko, the 243 is always a good choice for younger shooters and I prefer a good 85 to 95 grain bullet at about 3000 fps. I just got a Tikka 6.5x55 and put a DPT suppressor on it and it is a tack driver and very mild to shoot with the 143 gr ELD X bullet. I would go for the 6.5 first if I had the choice as it has the legs to go out further if needed and it shoots a heavier bullet with a better SD for excellent penetration. Either will work. Even 223's are ok within there limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post
    Speaking from personal experience, the grendel is not a forgiving round for sub optimal shot placement.
    Why's this, @Bagheera?

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    Well you insipered me with the 243 it already has 1/2 unf thread so i built my own can. Just have to burgle some argon off ghe old man so i can tig it up.Name:  20181125_201154.jpg
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Size:  2.40 MBthis is my oldest son he is bigger then noodle
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    The target shoot with air rifle all the time mostly prone. Hes a good shot with it.
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