Thread: New Here got my licence this month Goat Problem

To the OP,
Good on you for asking the question, you’ll have a ball tidying them up with a centre fire.
To echo the others, your friends advice is marginal. If you are new to shooting as it comes across in your post, then you would be well advised to get someone to point you in the right direction and come out with you a few times.

Flyblown wrote an excellent overview that you may well find helpful, just as relevant to your application.
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....control-71932/

Mustering to fund a more appropriate set up and plenty of ammunition is a really good suggestion.

Coming from a farm he may well have a bit of experiance just didnt have a fal?

Originally Posted by blip

Coming from a farm he may well have a bit of experiance just didnt have a fal?

Then should be well aware of the limits of a rimfire and unlikely to seek advice online about it.

Is he not allowed?

Grandfather shot heaps of goats off their farm in the waikato back in the day with a 22 single shot so it has been done before

Go grandad !

Welcome aboard Jakey. I am with Ryan Songhurst on your question. Tool up for an ethical result on the goats.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Welcome aboard Jakey. I am with Ryan Songhurst on your question. Tool up for an ethical result on the goats.

yes am with these two good buggers on this - I culled for 5 years and ran goat control operations for 30 years - we never ever used .22 or .22 magnum for goat control and I don't believe any where in DOC were they used - private concerns may have - just to light and risk of wounding to high - not an ethical kill - the minimum we used was .222 - if you were after a couple for meat and got in close and head shot younger animals you likely get away with a .22 - you should be able to get some hunters close to you off here to give you a hand I would just ask

Barry...the NZFS issues .22lr at one point in time,suppressors too but HV ammunition so wasnt overly quiet...remember reading one of the culler/hunters telling of it in one of the many books......
but having shot hundreds of goats with .22lr....mate and I used to do it for beer money,selling carcasses for a few dollars..... we learnt a few tricks... mustered into corner of paddock and held there by sheep dogs while they were head shot was most efficent way...but I have lost track of the amount of times Ive said to myself over the last 35 years...oh how much easier it would have been if Id had my nice accurate .223 to do the job back then.

one trick is to watch where mobe likes to escape to......
then come back and get yourself in range and keep shooting the lead goat ,ofte nthey like to flee uphill..this can make shooting entire mob simple matter if yo ucan reload fast enough... yes we no longer have high capacity semis but you can make a fair old dent in population with 5-6 shot bolt action .223 without to much trouble.... hit in shoulder/chest the ywill scream a bit before die,but die they will, head neck is ideal but chest works too.
with .22lr you may now struggle with half decent ammunition...power point had just come out when we were doing this and it was heaps better than other brands..now even that sadly has deteriated till its not so reliable anymore
get a .223 the norincos are cheap enough and the ones Ive seen and handled shot very well.
there are lots of better options out there too with detachable magazines which will be handy when dealing with mobs... take up offer from forum members to come and help and lean you rifle for the day..you will learn heaps and SHOULD be offered return hunt oppertunity... win win for both parties.
good luck and welcome.

I started out culling goats (not for a living more just because i was asked to) with a 222 that worked well as I became more confident and consistant I moved to 22 hornet. Im not suggesting going culling with a 22lr but saying that it has been done. The times Ive shot them myself with 22lr were when thats what i was carrying at the time. If components were more available id probably use the grendel more. What ever you decide to use use it within its limitations.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Barry...the NZFS issues .22lr at one point in time,suppressors too but HV ammunition so wasnt overly quiet...remember reading one of the culler/hunters telling of it in one of the many books......
but having shot hundreds of goats with .22lr....mate and I used to do it for beer money,selling carcasses for a few dollars..... we learnt a few tricks... mustered into corner of paddock and held there by sheep dogs while they were head shot was most efficent way...but I have lost track of the amount of times Ive said to myself over the last 35 years...oh how much easier it would have been if Id had my nice accurate .223 to do the job back then.

one trick is to watch where mobe likes to escape to......
then come back and get yourself in range and keep shooting the lead goat ,ofte nthey like to flee uphill..this can make shooting entire mob simple matter if yo ucan reload fast enough... yes we no longer have high capacity semis but you can make a fair old dent in population with 5-6 shot bolt action .223 without to much trouble.... hit in shoulder/chest the ywill scream a bit before die,but die they will, head neck is ideal but chest works too.
with .22lr you may now struggle with half decent ammunition...power point had just come out when we were doing this and it was heaps better than other brands..now even that sadly has deteriated till its not so reliable anymore
get a .223 the norincos are cheap enough and the ones Ive seen and handled shot very well.
there are lots of better options out there too with detachable magazines which will be handy when dealing with mobs... take up offer from forum members to come and help and lean you rifle for the day..you will learn heaps and SHOULD be offered return hunt oppertunity... win win for both parties.
good luck and welcome.

Winchester Super Speed was my favourite. Would have shot thousands of goats with it. Hundred plus a day wasn't uncommon. I wouldn't recommend a 22 for someone who hasn't done a lot of shooting/hunting though.
Not a lot different to using certain little centerfires on Red stags.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Winchester Super Speed was my favourite. Would have shot thousands of goats with it. Hundred plus a day wasn't uncommon. I wouldn't recommend a 22 for someone who hasn't done a lot of shooting/hunting though.
Not a lot different to using certain little centerfires on Red stags.

I liked fiocchi super speed, the Italian stuff, still have a few thou.


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one of my norincos preferred the superspeed and hated powerpoint..the other was other way around.... feeding with power point was at times problimatic as blunt front would catch....
but when was shooting goats with my mate..he had bolt action with tiny wee narrow view scope and I was still using open sights (single shot too!!)and was amazed at how well he shot.

Welcome to the forum, you've done well in filling 3 pages in 24 hours. Looking at the majority of your land is not ideal .22 country, definitely centrefire. You live close to a very good market for goat meat, will say no more.

i believe wilson hellaby in auckland need 1000 goats a week for the supermarkets up there - they pay good money too (most of 6 dollars + gst) . there could be a couple of thousand dollars in those photos...