Thread: The price of meat these days is a joke.

I wonder how long XR before people just sell their beef animals on the farm for homekill and do away with the works, cartage, killing fees etc etc.

Originally Posted by tac a1

I wonder how long XR before people just sell their beef animals on the farm for homekill and do away with the works, cartage, killing fees etc etc.

If it was cost effective we would be doing it.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

If it was cost effective we would be doing it.


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For this topic...I would like to ask what `s the normal markup for every farmers would like to receive, particular for beef, retired cows sorts etc? I do `t interest those premium meats since NZ beef & lamb has the privilege, and bigger calibers. And, if I can get you 10%-20% more, how farmers are willing to cooperate with?

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

What you think about boer goat? Any good compare to others...

Goat is OK, but, it is a funny stringy meat. Not world ending stringy but quite different to lamb, to which it often gets compared.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Haven't tried moose (this coming October hopefully) or Pitt sheep. Eaten quite a few Arapawa sheep.
But if you want to try a meat you will be back for more of, try whale. Cooked how you would cook a nice steak. Best meat I've eaten.

Eaten and harpooned the odd whale after too much C2H6O

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Eaten and harpooned the odd whale after too much C2H6O

....I think i'm going to be sick

Yeah I am so sick of having to dag and shear. Oh I didn't know they were good eaters but that's a bonus I think I will rehome most of my current ones as I can't wait till they die of old age, and I like being understocked so I don't need to buy in supplements in Winter. Temped to make a road trip for one of your rams

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Wiltshires are the way to go, far less work and they taste better too. I was going to put these rams on trademe but never got around to it. Never been shorn, never been drenched, organic certified.

If my memory serves me right you have to be responsible for the day to day care of an animal for 30 days before you are allowed to do it for homekill. So I wonder if there would be a market for a farmer to sell an animal to someone who then comes around to do regular health/feed/water checks on the animal still in one of the farmers' paddocks.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

For this topic...I would like to ask what `s the normal markup for every farmers would like to receive, particular for beef, retired cows sorts etc? I do `t interest those premium meats since NZ beef & lamb has the privilege, and bigger calibers. And, if I can get you 10%-20% more, how farmers are willing to cooperate with?

Me non comprende. Solly...

Originally Posted by rugerman

If my memory serves me right you have to be responsible for the day to day care of an animal for 30 days before you are allowed to do it for homekill. So I wonder if there would be a market for a farmer to sell an animal to someone who then comes around to do regular health/feed/water checks on the animal still in one of the farmers' paddocks.

I seriously considered doing that, mostly with Samoan contacts as those guys are always honest, thankful for the opportunity and love meat. In the end it just seemed too much hassle dealing with the public and the regulations, needing people come look after the animals, then sorting out killing space and removal of waste. Selling animals to my mate down the road is far less hassle.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

For this topic...I would like to ask what `s the normal markup for every farmers would like to receive, particular for beef, retired cows sorts etc? I do `t interest those premium meats since NZ beef & lamb has the privilege, and bigger calibers. And, if I can get you 10%-20% more, how farmers are willing to cooperate with?

Meat slaughter and export is highly regulated in NZ because most of the production is exported. Export markets have high health standards and the regulations here are to make sure that there is no meat entering the export market through any non regulated source. Animals are traced from farm to market. Any animal purchase and slaughter plans that you may have will need to comply with the MPI regs.
Farmers would be happy to supply animals for a higher price but why pay a higher rate than you could purchase direct from a slaughter plant ?

As a student in the 70s my blokes flat couldn't afford supermarket meat, let alone local butcher's. I had a 303 and would ride the CB500F from the 'Tron out to Raglan hills to a place I could pick up an occasional goat for curry. But being a farm lad, I preferred hogget. So I knocked on doors to find a cocky who would sell me one of his killers and let me dress it, hang it overnight in his shed, use his offal hole then split it in half the next morning. I got some pretty hard stares from Hamilton cops tracking through with a carcass wrapped in and old sheet strapped to the back of the bike and a 303B slung on my shoulder. Probably wouldn't work well today...

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

I seriously considered doing that, mostly with Samoan contacts as those guys are always honest, thankful for the opportunity and love meat. In the end it just seemed too much hassle dealing with the public and the regulations, needing people come look after the animals, then sorting out killing space and removal of waste. Selling animals to my mate down the road is far less hassle.

and this is why I believe you could sell them the oppertunity to shoot an animal..and allow them to take it home afterwards.....

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Meat slaughter and export is highly regulated in NZ because most of the production is exported. Export markets have high health standards and the regulations here are to make sure that there is no meat entering the export market through any non regulated source. Animals are traced from farm to market. Any animal purchase and slaughter plans that you may have will need to comply with the MPI regs.
Farmers would be happy to supply animals for a higher price but why pay a higher rate than you could purchase direct from a slaughter plant ?

Several things....of not to use slaughter house:
1. They have their business model and I do `t want to play their games, either do they.
2. the media and associations only showed the bright side of meat export biz, but only few knew the dark side, deals with those exclusive importers, entities....
3. If I use those papers ready channels, like slaughter house...how can the biz bring more markups to local farmers? And, I do `t want to pay those importer since they do nothing except filling in forms.
4. New biz model, not try to compete those big players, but be a necessary substitutes.

I am too tired, drove 300km a day for fishing and got nothing.....

I’m no accountant but the broad answers are there. not a bad gross profit margin:

https://annualreports.foodstuffs.co....Statements.pdf

Originally Posted by thatguy

I’m no accountant but the broad answers are there. not a bad gross profit margin:

https://annualreports.foodstuffs.co....Statements.pdf

A capital gain game...just like play poke. If I bring 10,000 dollars and others only 1,000 dollars for each, if this is a fair game, no cheating, then I will be the sole winner since maybe I can `t beat others with bigger cards, but I can beat them away with bigger bets.