The 50's (tried B-tip, Vmax + TNT) are the good shit in a .223, a real sweet spot for speed and drop over sensible ranges.. 9 isnt really a fast twist, 7 twist on the HK and the 50s were still scary good.
Dont let the haters talk you out of the .17 though - i am seriously keen on building a .17 hornet in the next year and I want to hear if they are any good or not
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