I just gave the Howa a good old bump test well more of a thump on the ground and a heap of slam the bolt shut worked the safety and no issues i didn't weigh the trigger but now it has no 1st stage and a nice crisp light let off, happy as.
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I much prefer 2 stage triggers, like mickey says they concentrate you. I have a mini in 7,62 x39, the triggers fully ajustable and it breaks at 3 lb. Guess it's what your used to though.
These triggers are easy to make very good. All I do is remove the springs for the first and second stage, throw the 2nd stage spring in my box of random springs, move the 1st stage spring to the second stage spot and snip a spring from a ballpoint pen down to about 5 or 6mm long and put that in for the 1st stage. You end up with an extremely light 1st stage that is barely noticeable and are able to dial the overall trigger weight to somewhere a little less than 1lb and have it still bump safe. Takes 5 min to do (or 10min if you have sausage fingers and eyesight like a pig)
Using the OPs air tube method, you could just use the 1st stage spring in the 2nd stage spot and not put anything at all in the 1st stage and you should have a light single stage trigger.
Personally I dont mind having a light 1st stage, I reckon it encourages good trigger technique.
I really like the 2 stage too. In particular the Savage trigger when its adjusted down. Its good for my mental process - take up the blade pressure, exhale and think "boy, now you're for it", and fire.
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Nice mod if you like single stage I can shoot ether I really have no preference
As long as the break is clean with no creep im happy
Might have to single stage one of my howa’s and have a play
again you fellas need to go and use a SMLE that hasnt been mucked around with if you think a HOWA has creepy two stage trigger,the first stage seemed to be about 2" and then the 2nd was fine..... its all about trigger control no matter what system your rifle has. one thing I believe we can all agree on...triggers have come a long way forwards from 50 years ago...heck rifles in general have done so.
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Interesting thread .
I have two Howa .223 rifles.
An old one that I replaced the factory single stage trigger with a Timney and a newer one with the two stage HACT ( has a replacement 1 1/2 pound spring )
I haven’t shot the HACT rifle for a month or two because I’ve been using the old gun , but last weekend I shot it because I’ve changed scope rings and needed to sight it in .
After the first couple of shots I literally said out loud “ shit that triggers nice “ .
I can’t explain why exactly, but at the moment I’m leaning towards the HACT as being better ( it is lighter than the Timney , so that might have something to do with it )
The two stage aspect doesn’t worry me at all , but I have shot and still own a few Two stage triggered rifles so it’s not new to me .
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