Thread: Making a Rolling block rifle on my lathe.

If you have a picture on your back you dont need a license to do anything and they seem fine with it

What does that mean?

Originally Posted by stevodog

What does that mean?

Originally Posted by stevodog

Very cool. Do you need any special license to make these? What pressures will it run at/to?
My dad is a soon to be retiring fitter/turner who makes can't find vintage car parts in his spare time. I could put him and his mates onto one of these.

You can make a firearm for yourself provided it is legal to have with your FAL. Like, don't make a pistol if you don't have B-cat license.

You can later pass this firearm to someone else, but you can't manufacture a firearm for someone else or with the intent of selling it, I think you need some sort of ticket for that, maybe @gundoc can fill in more details.

Of course with new arms regulations, my mate would not able to help me even put a scope on my rifle unless he is a licensed gunsmith...


EDIT: adding beginning of section 5 of the current arms act, my emphases in bold:

"5. Dealers to be licensed
(1) No person may, unless they hold a dealer’s licence under this Act issued by a commissioned officer of the Police,—
(a) in the way of business sell any firearm, prohibited magazine, prohibited part, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon; or
(b) manufacture for sale any firearm, prohibited magazine, prohibited part, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon."

Now that's it, a barrel is a tube with splines cut in the bore, what you do with it is up to you, good for watering the garden. If you asked me to make a action for you ,"NO WAY", I only make rifles for my own use and are proof tested, I gave my Sharps rifle a good test shooting with a hot load that would make a Ruger #1 sit up and take notice!!. So there`s no numbers or stamps on it. It`s ok to mill on a lathe, BUT, only light cuts, not like someone with a 2.200kg monster .

Originally Posted by stevodog

Very cool. Do you need any special license to make these? What pressures will it run at/to?
My dad is a soon to be retiring fitter/turner who makes can't find vintage car parts in his spare time. I could put him and his mates onto one of these.

Yes, you do need special permit/licence to make such things these days. Back in the 60's it was a highly illegal activity but a fascinating technical challenge. Proof that laws only work with those who choose to obey them. The pistol worked well on both standard velocity and high velocity ammo and, with the exception of pins and springs, was made from mild steel.

Originally Posted by Cordite

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ok where did you guys get my picture from arrrugh

Originally Posted by gundoc

Darn tootin,! Back in the '60's a good mate of mine made an excellent copy of a .22 Colt Woodsman from an exploded view parts diagram and the entire job was done on a Myford ML7 with a milling slide accessory. He is a highly skilled toolmaker but he was still in his apprenticeship then. A basic machine combined with skill and patience can make just about anything.

@gundoc

Yes and if I’m not mistaken the same talented individual, once freehand cut on a milling machine the Jaguar script on the set of knock offs for his E Type Jag.

Originally Posted by S.E.G

@gundoc

Yes and if I’m not mistaken the same talented individual, once freehand cut on a milling machine the Jaguar script on the set of knock offs for his E Type Jag.

No, a different (though very talented) person.

Im interested to see how you go about cutting the internal recesses. Its that operation that has stopped me from attempting a rolling block so far.

brew me old china wheres me sporran mounted 25pounder comin off the production line .
It wll give a hole new meaning to the words "gettin a shot away"-specially on mallards!!
now given both of us have a penchant for home brewed ale -i always found i did better work and thought a lot more outta the box ,if I raided the fridge 1st and gazed intently at what i was working on whilst emptying a bottle or two!!
bloody amazing "rough as guts" manufacture but very effective .My warehouse jandals recoil pads was a love child of this approach.
gadgetman recently used the approach -though it looked prettier -lack of ale Id suspect!!
Keep up the good work!!

Hi you old bugger, lucky your brew`s not like mine, have to don the full antivirus suit AND wear a recoil pad before I open one of my 25lder bottles of brew, the gases explosion can be heard in wellington. Now the gas has cleared it I setup to mill a slot in the under side of the action so I could fly cut most of it off. The end bit is slightly curved so will do that last. And yes Tensixty that's some thing I have to work out. It`s getting there.
, Milling the slot so I can cut the rest.
Fly cutting the rest.

Awesome, I'm learning a lot of new tricks by looking at the way you achieve different things. I have a small mill at work but some of your techniques are inspiring.

Originally Posted by mimms2

And how do you keep your chucks so clean?? mine are all basically blued... by surface rust then a dosing of oil, rinse and repeat

Preventative maintenance! It was usually impressed into the 'old school' apprentices with the toe of a steel cap boot! A tradesman looks after his tools!

My top slide has a bit of slop in it to, trying to think how you cut a acme thread to makeup a new worm nut. Always try a mill with the cutting force downwards and my lathe is always covered in swarf, cooling fluid, cutting oil and T68 lude oil, also some gun drilling oil when I get a leak at 400psi, the celling's not rusty ether. The lathe is sitting on carpet, in a steel tray, don`t want to stuff up the carpet.