Thread: Quality "everlasting" .410 shells

Originally Posted by nowool

i now consider you the .410 shotgun GOD! any plans to market?

Thank you my pagan friend..
No plans to market anything? I listed all parts used and where to get them if anyone else wants to use brass in their .410g bores. The brass can be fire formed from 9.3x74R and .444 Marlin, no dies are really needed.
The rim thickness is not an issue on the brass but some .410 chambers have a radius on the front side of the rim rather than square so the brass need to a radius to lock the action properly. This can be done in a lathe, drill press or even a cordless drill with a file and some fine sand paper.

It doesnt need much, just basically enough to take the sharp top edge off.. pic is of an un-modded 9.3x74R case on the left, the middle one has had a radius filed and factory hull on right. The important part is that the action locks up fully.

my old winchester single had deep rim recess and short firing pin....SOME fiocchi loads had primer recessed and it wouldnt fire them.... the bakail has no such issues. my insert doesnt either as mean as machinist turned it up perfectly.

Spent some time developing loads today as some more components turned up from USA.
I fine tuned the load of H110 for a 1100fps with 3/4oz of #5 shot.






Also worked up a 11/16oz load with my new max wads.
Amazed how 0.1gr of H110 can make such a big difference in velocity in this little shot shell.
I started low as there is no data out there for these wads in brass cases. 1.5gr above book max for Super X hulls got me on the right track much like I did for the 3/4oz load then I slowly walked it up to 1200fps by incroments of 0.1gr at a time (1200fps is the same as Super X factory 11/16oz 3" loads in my gun)











Very punchy little load! I will pattern them both once I find a bit of cardboard big enough.

Loaded up 12 to fill my belt pouch for evening walks.
The neighbor has a heap of pigeons on his stock feed pad at the moment too so I will go test them out in the next few days.

@Wingman, how are you getting along with the skyrats at you neighbours place?

Originally Posted by Tommy

@Wingman, how are you getting along with the skyrats at you neighbours place?

he no longer has a problem...

man I hoped you breasted them all out......heap of good eating there....was that all .410???? or did you break out the .12ga and clay loads???

Nah I was just winding Tommy up, this was actually a mate of mine with his Edgun .25cal PCP.

I jumped 3 of them from the maize feed lot and the others never came back.



PS: I dont own a 12 gauge, they are for beginners

Ahahahaha crack up

there is video clip on the net with a fella taking ?doves in Argentina? with a bow and arrows.......puts a lot of shotgunners to shame.

These guys normally get a free pass around my house but this one was pushing its luck at the base of my trees..
#4 roll ya owns put him down instantly

Sharing the .410 love with another 300+ brass cases made this weekend

I've been led astray by a gentleman who's formed a pile of .410 bore brass for me... so I've started on some black powder loads.

- large pistol primer
- a scoop of black powder (about 35-40gr)
- 2mm stiff cardboard firmly pressed down
- 5mm felt
- a scoop of mongrel shot from the bucket (1/2oz)
- 0.5mm card glued on top.

These'll be for shooting on close-in steel targets, so not fussed about good patterns, I'll have a crack with some good shot later.



I also had a go at some smokeless loads with Win 296/H110 and 3/4oz #7 shot. Had some trouble igniting the powder until I pushed a thick card over the powder - but couldn't get the chrony to read my shots, will have another crack next week.

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Originally Posted by Smallfoot

I also had a go at some smokeless loads with Win 296/H110 and 3/4oz #7 shot. Had some trouble igniting the powder until I pushed a thick card over the powder - but couldn't get the chrony to read my shots, will have another crack next week.

Yes the brass cases definitely needs a nitro card rammed over the powder to keep consistent ignition. Even when I use a plastic wad I still use a thick nitro card as well.
Did you get a chance to try some cork tile wads? Did you end up having to round off the front of the rim to get a good action lock up?

looks like fun.....I take it you HAVE TO use 1/2oz for the steel targets???? 3/4oz is just better in everyway.... it SHOULD work well with black powder as it wont be honking along.....but that said be aware the wee 410 is more sensitive to change than any other guage...all of mine have hated #6 shot with vengence but #4 lovely tight patterns...best of all is a mixture of all sorts of sizes....
look forward to seeing more of this....