Thread: 13,000 military-style semi-automatic weapons in NZ

As the Header states apparently its fact because its been obtained OIA.
And of course as there has been another numpty in the good ol U S of A we will associate all these "assault weapons" with this shooting to gain a little more milage.
Joining the cause is a "professor"1 LOL another edugit. We need a amnesty to hand in all these damn no good naughty weapons. Give me a break already.
Now I dont even own a E cat but I support those that do.

If you get through the whole article with throwing up theres a golden nugget in the last paragraph.


Heres the article.

13,000 military-style semi-automatic weapons in NZ

Charlie Dreaver Charlie Dreaver, Journalist
charlie.dreaver@radionz.co.nz

In the wake of the Texas church massacre, new information shows there are more than 13,000 military-style semi-automatic (MSSA) weapons in this country.

The AR-15, used by shooter Devin Kelley to kill 26 people in a church Texas church earlier this week, is an example of a military-style semi-automatic weapon.The Colt AR-15, used by shooter Devin Kelley to kill 26 people in a church Texas church earlier this week, is an example of a military-style semi-automatic weapon. Photo: Flickr / M62 / Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic
Information released to RNZ under the Official Information Act shows the weapons make up nearly a quarter of all restricted firearms in this country

Police said owners were vetted before they were allowed such weapons, and faced tougher security requirements than for a standard gun licence.

Police said this system dealt with any potential risks.

National Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies director Kevin Clements said 13,000 was far too many.

"[An amnesty] would soak up some of the weapons in circulation." - Professor Clements
"Most of those weapons are absolutely no use whatsoever for either hunting purposes or farming purposes.

"They are, as their name indicates, assault weapons and developed primarily for military use."

Professor Clements said the 13,000 weapons were just the ones registered with police and the actual number could be higher still.

"You just need one individual, as in Aramoana, or one individual, as in Texas, who suddenly has a psychiatric break, or very malign purposes with access to such weapons, and then they can create mayhem.

"Then people will say, 'well how did he have access to such weapons?'.

"Well they had access to such weapons, because many of them are not under very strict control."

Professor Clements said there should be an amnesty similar to one in Australia following the Port Arthur massacre in 1996.

"I think the more that can be taken out of circulation the better."

Council of Licensed Firearm Owners spokesperson Nicole McKee said there were valid uses for the guns - such as hunting rabbits and culling goats.

"We also have legitimate sporting use for them as well.

"We have clubs ... such as [the] New Zealand Service Rifle Association, which use these types of firearm both nationally and internationally."

Mrs McKee said the number of military-style semi-automatic weapons in New Zealand was low given there were about 1,200,000 guns in the country.

There were strict processes in place to ensure the guns remained in safe hands, she said.

"The owner is checked on by police roughly every 12 months to make sure those particular firearms are still in their possession, so all those firearms are registered."

Police Association vice-president Craig Tickelpenny said MSSA guns were not the main problem.

"They're actually following the regulation and rules with the firearms licence system.

"The bigger issue really is unlicensed firearms, or the firearms being stolen out in the community," he said.

Mr Tickelpenny said registering firearms was the best protection against theft.


You can listen to this twaddle too
Amnesty urged for thousands of NZ owners of semi-automatics

Note that the "professor" is our old anti-gun mate - data creator supreme - along with the Police Union head.
Hope Ron Marks and Richard Prosser have a quiet word with O'Connor, the previous Police Union head.

Originally Posted by WallyR

Note that the "professor" is our old anti-gun mate - data creator supreme - along with the Police Union head.
Hope Ron Marks and Richard Prosser have a quiet word with O'Connor, the previous Police Union head.

Prosser will be talking to himself. He's not in Parliament.

And, at risk of strolling into politics, Mr Prosser did not make NZF top brass as he got demoted pre-election

please note that RP did a fuck of a lot towards the rights of shooters in NZ and IMO does not deserve being thrown aside quite so casually

Originally Posted by 308

And, at risk of strolling into politics, Mr Prosser did not make NZF top brass as he got demoted pre-election

please note that RP did a fuck of a lot towards the rights of shooters in NZ and IMO does not deserve being thrown aside quite so casually

I don't know much about Prosser but we all know O'Conner is happy to encourage or assist others in breaking the law to get what mileage he wants.......Accessory before the fact to fraud?????

O'Connor is another kettle of fish entirely - if he had been made Minister of Police then shooters rights would have gone backwards at high speed
I believe that there is a convention that first time MPs don't get to be Ministers or some such thing? happy to be corrected

Again, politics but I am trying to stick to facts and not rant

I have just converted my AR15 to E cat and it is still the same firearm as far as I am concerned but clearly it is far more dangerous now that it has a thirty round magazine and a free standing pistol grip so when I shoot that very first goat with that very first bullet now it will die a much more serious death than if I had used a seven round magazine to hold the bullet.

The goat will be as safe as houses with your shooting prowess, Morning Rushy enjoy your day!

Mr Dreaver shows himself as yet another lazy MSM hack.couldnt get off his fat arse to go to NZDA/colfo or any of our well known hunting firearms experts to get their opinion or info -nup good old lefty proff and the bloody police union.hold on i feels a crap comin on soIll print it out and use it for exactly what its worth.
Charley -ya dreamin.
gary mauser would blow clements clean out of the water ,ballsack and all.

Up until the highlighted bit Mr Ticklepenny actually sounded more sensible and coherent than the president of the police assn does.

Originally Posted by Rushy

I have just converted my AR15 to E cat and it is still the same firearm as far as I am concerned but clearly it is far more dangerous now that it has a thirty round magazine and a free standing pistol grip so when I shoot that very first goat with that very first bullet now it will die a much more serious death than if I had used a seven round magazine to hold the bullet.

oohh ohhh, Rushy you just made me spill my morning coffee

Give the general public a bit more credit.
They're just as smart as us for the most part so know exactly what to do and think when they come across a title such as National Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies director.

Half that article is one progressive wanna be hippie banging his drum while the other half is a couple of professionals in the actual field of firearms given rhetoric against him, including police

We should create an organisation called the the National centre for victims of theft , rape and murder studies . that sounds lefty enough to be credible on radio Nz :-)

amnesty my balls. ill shit in a bag and put a ribbon on it for him. that is as much as that soft cock will get out of me.

Originally Posted by Rushy

I have just converted my AR15 to E cat and it is still the same firearm as far as I am concerned but clearly it is far more dangerous now that it has a thirty round magazine and a free standing pistol grip so when I shoot that very first goat with that very first bullet now it will die a much more serious death than if I had used a seven round magazine to hold the bullet.

take the pistol grip off and store your AR in a standard a-cat safe and put the pistol grip and Magazines in the e-cat safe since those grips and Mags are so dangerous