Thread: 24 June 2023

Originally Posted by hakka_ranger

Just hope we won't see the "firearm registry leaked!" headline news someday. This privacy leak would potentially give the law biding owners' location to the crims.

Whoever came up with this registry idea should bear that responsibility if it happened.

The company doing the registry for the cops ticks all the right boxes as far as website security goes.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

The company doing the registry for the cops ticks all the right boxes as far as website security goes.

Devil's advocate, a lot of companies 'tick all the right boxes' and still have people that make mistakes.

Originally Posted by No.3

Devil's advocate, a lot of companies 'tick all the right boxes' and still have people that make mistakes.

True - but these are things like independent assessments and certifications which give them significant credibility. Just to be clear, this is right up my alley in what I do for work. And from what I read I would give them a thumbs up.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

True - but these are things like independent assessments and certifications which give them significant credibility. Just to be clear, this is right up my alley in what I do for work. And from what I read I would give them a thumbs up.

Well, that's relief then. I can stop worrying now.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

True - but these are things like independent assessments and certifications which give them significant credibility. Just to be clear, this is right up my alley in what I do for work. And from what I read I would give them a thumbs up.

US military was the same. Again, devil's advocate and the certs are the same as the registry - a snapshot in time and what happened yesterday doesn't predict tomorrow unfortunately. WOF for cars is another example...

Originally Posted by hakka_ranger

Just hope we won't see the "firearm registry leaked!" headline news someday. This privacy leak would potentially give the law biding owners' location to the crims.

Whoever came up with this registry idea should bear that responsibility if it happened.

Yes, all those involved in this registry need to be accountable for any and all leaks and breaches. Years ago while having his gun safe inspected, a general manager I worked with was told by the OA a cop in Wellington had recently been caught selling FAL details to gang members. Sounds like FAL details and registry data is only as safe as those who hold this data are honest?

I won't comply until forced to, I had planed on importing a rifle this year but will hold off now. I handed in my AR in the last few days of the buy back, so will do the same here.

I have zero faith that the information in this register will be safe and certainly won't be in the first batch of guinea pigs to test it out.
Not to mention the level of contempt shown by the Police and politicians for the past 3 years doesn't exactly give me enthusiasm for doing as I'm told.

Hopefully we see a change of Government and I won't need to register them at all.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I won't comply until forced to, I had planed on importing a rifle this year but will hold off now. I handed in my AR in the last few days of the buy back, so will do the same here.

I have zero faith that the information in this register will be safe and certainly won't be in the first batch of guinea pigs to test it out.
Not to mention the level of contempt shown by the Police and politicians for the past 3 years doesn't exactly give me enthusiasm for doing as I'm told.

Hopefully we see a change of Government and I won't need to register them at all.

Can understand how you feel and you are not alone on this one...but hey I'm pretty certain we've already sold our souls to the devil lol.

Sorry if I'm repeating anyone's question here, but what the hell is an "Arms item"????

Is a Beretta hat one of these? A reloading die? Where is the line I wonder. I couldn't find a definition on their strangely developed website (that looks copy/pasted from some other unfortunate country)

Originally Posted by T.FOYE

Sorry if I'm repeating anyone's question here, but what the hell is an "Arms item"????

Is a Beretta hat one of these? A reloading die? Where is the line I wonder. I couldn't find a definition on their strangely developed website (that looks copy/pasted from some other unfortunate country)

In the case of the registration part, only, it is a different definition.
An arm item in that case is the main part of the firearm with its serial number. As talked to with Nicolas Taylor the barrister last week.

Basically any part that is required for the operation of the firearm, ie barrel, trigger, bolt, magazine, barrel, stock (inc grips). Also includes suppressors and muzzle brakes I think. Anything that requires a mail order permit.

https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....earms-registry

Says at the link what a major part is.