Thread: 24 June 2023

Originally Posted by Percy Jones

if its over 30 days you have to do a transfer to your mate, so technically its no longer yours, its your mates.

But if it happens within the 30 days?

Originally Posted by Percy Jones

if its over 30 days you have to do a transfer to your mate, so technically its no longer yours, its your mates.

well SOME of us have done it multiple times over the years WITH POLICE KNOWLEDGE AND APPROVAL.... hold onto mates guns when situation at home is a bit on the dodgy side.......family member a bit off the rails.... domestic situation turned to custard.... got pissed and been a dick in public...... made suicidal comment once too often...... licence has expired or renewal hasnt come through yet..shifted house and hasnt got locable storage sorted yet...partner doesnt want guns in house(arguably time for new partner).. moving over seas for year or two.... which brings up the many firearms in long term storage lockers/containers while owners are off on the big OE.... cant see them being registered anytime soon.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

But if it happens within the 30 days?

Greetings,
I have been thinking about this lately. There seems to have been a porous wall between my son's and my gun safes recently. Under the previous legislation this was no problem. At the moment I am using one of his rifles for F class 600 yard shooting. We will need to decide how we manage this ahead of 24/06/23 as movement after that date will need a transfer and this will trigger registration of all the other rifles for both of us, something I am not ready for.
GPM.

I wonder how the system would cope if there were two rifles with the same serial number and caliber . Like 2 Lee enfields or two “Mauser”

The only reason I can see the register do is finding out if someone is passing guns onto people of dubious character, but what do they do when said person rings the cops and says he’s/she’s been broken into and robbed? I’m all for good law but don’t think this will help when popo are to scared to knock on gangs doors.
I’ll comply and try to be an upstanding law abiding citizen but I know I’m not the only one who can see this won’t make a spot of difference.

Originally Posted by 2post

The only reason I can see the register do is finding out if someone is passing guns onto people of dubious character, but what do they do when said person rings the cops and says he’s/she’s been broken into and robbed? I’m all for good law but don’t think this will help when popo are to scared to knock on gangs doors.
I’ll comply and try to be an upstanding law abiding citizen but I know I’m not the only one who can see this won’t make a spot of difference.

I will comply as far as the law requires. Why anyone wouldn't comply, or would behave in a way that draws attention to themselves through being cute or obstinate is beyond me. Complying does not mean agreement.

Dont draw attention to yourself is key to having yr rifles to keep hunting.

I will comply as a law abiding citizen and responsible firearms owner. I don't believe it will lower gun violence and the crims will continue on their merry way. I will be waiting awhile to comply though as there are many issues raised on here that are valid concerns .
I think this legislation has a lot of water to go under the bridge yet.

Unfortunately "Complying does not mean agreement." may be true of the register, however it's not necissarily true of all things. It's easy to see how the register could be missused against people who dissagree or don't comply with whatever the latest "requirement" is from the authorities.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

24/6/23

2+4=6, 6, 2*3=6

666.

It's a sign!

Oh shit, NO!

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Unfortunately "Complying does not mean agreement." may be true of the register, however it's not necissarily true of all things. It's easy to see how the register could be missused against people who dissagree or don't comply with whatever the latest "requirement" is from the authorities.

Good point.

I think the advisable thing to do (and I suspect most will) is to sit back and watch & wait unless compelled to comply. There is much chatter that the back-room boffins have told Police that the Register is not ready for launch (June 2023) but being an Election year much pressure has been applied to go-ahead anyway. Given the range of people who will have access to the data-base the first Security Breach is only a fingertip away from happening and it will. On a second note, Do Not under any circumstances go on-line and enter the details yourself, as there is no paper option, for security reasons, use the Phone-in method (o8oo xxxx) so that it is Police staff entering the details. When this turns into the massive cluster that we know will happen they will be looking for any and all excuses to blame LaFOs and incorrect Data Entry will be one of those. In short they created this, let them do the work. (My ten cents worth...)

Originally Posted by Tahr

I will comply as far as the law requires. Why anyone wouldn't comply, or would behave in a way that draws attention to themselves through being cute or obstinate is beyond me. Complying does not mean agreement.

I have no issue complying, it’s what normal law abiding citizens do.
My comments are my musings about how to stop criminals getting guns, If the register stops one person getting hold of a gun then it’s worth it. I just don’t have much hope since the police have no idea and I’ve seen no research or evidence to say a register will help.
I see it more as a political decision.

Originally Posted by 2post

I have no issue complying, it’s what normal law abiding citizens do.
My comments are my musings about how to stop criminals getting guns, If the register stops one person getting hold of a gun then it’s worth it. I just don’t have much hope since the police have no idea and I’ve seen no research or evidence to say a register will help.
I see it more as a political decision.

My comment was in support of you.

Once you "trigger" the registration requirement by
A/ buying ammunition
B/ buying / selling a firearm
Dont you then have 5 yrs to complete the compliance process I dont see where it says immediately.