Thread: Always Identify your target beyond all doubt

Originally Posted by Rushy

So the message there is nothing fancy, just simple tried and true functionality.

Yep Rushy, 100%, having lived amongst it and carried and trained with a pistol, simple functionality and reliability always wins, you would be surprised how many revolvers are carried, purely for reliability and simplicity, pull the trigger and it goes bang!

You see all this american tactical gear that maybe a swat team would use but is completely impractical for day to day carry or for home defence.

Yes, the police had apparently been to his house repeatedly for reports of domestic violence.

Blade Gunner !

Originally Posted by steven

What I wondered on was the 4 shots....1, or 2 yes...though Ive been told that if you are not "experienced" once you start pulling that trigger you cannot stop.

Shoot until the desired effect is achieved on the target, don't fire 1 shot and stop to see what happens in a situation where you're having to shoot someone.


This sounds more like a murder though from all reports

If he does go down for it , will they give him an home D with a ankle bracelet ?

Originally Posted by Munsey

If he does go down for it , will they give him an home D with a ankle bracelet ?

Not in Africa mate, and prison is somewhere a white bloke really does not want to be in SA!

Originally Posted by Spudattack

Not in Africa mate, and prison is somewhere a white bloke really does not want to be in SA!

I was being smart arse as he no ankles . But he would be at an unfortunate height with out hi legs in prison showers . Ohoooooooo!

Originally Posted by Spudattack

Not in Africa mate, and prison is somewhere a white bloke really does not want to be in SA!

And the Oscar goes to... Pollsmoor!!!


(Pollsmoor is a notorious prison in Cape Town)

Here's an example of what the police and public have to contend with on a daily basis. This was part of a documentary on the police's Special Task Force filmed about 99/2000.

Originally Posted by Scouser

Jeese Steven, i spent 8 years in california, and even i havent got a story to compare with that....tragic

Well Oscar's been sent down. A little way.

The criminal justice system (the irony in the title...) in South Africa is working as effectively as ever. Money talks, bullshit walks. Oscar perhaps the most well-documented case of a person of high profile, in the sports arena - getting off relatively lightly.

The case of Bees Le Roux in my opinion, is of a similar standing.

The below is an interview with a guy by the name of Marc Batchelor who was a midfielder for the South African football, "soccer" team in the mid 90s. The Mikey Schultz that he refers to as his "best mate" is a self-confessed killer. In 2005 he took part in an "assisted suicide" when he shot mining magnate Brett Kebble to death.



My personal opinion?

I've experienced crime in South Africa. For this sort of crime which sadly speaking, in the greater scheme of things, is simply another of the 18000 or so reported murders recorded annually. I have friends and family who live in similar gated communities, from a security perspective it's a great place to live. These estates are perimeter walled topped with electric razor wire or pallisade. 1 or 2 boom-controlled entry / exit points manned by armed guards (9mm P / 12ga / LM 5), residents' access controlled by biometric identification, visitors' boots checked upon exit.

I felt quite safe inside.

For someone to jump out of bed without first notifying the person next to him what he's doing and then go and blaze away at a bathroom door? He was scared? Fuck off, that's just ridiculous - in my mind it was either he got angry and went too far. Some might suggest premeditated but ... you'd have to pretty stupid to pre-meditate killing someone in such obvious circumstances.

Yup he wins and that good looking chick lost.

Yes my lady. Sob sob puke. Wanker!

One wonders just how much he paid the judge? In reality, only a small proportion of murders even get investigated in that country. Out of 18,000 murders per year. That's 50 murders a day! My brother in law was one of the victims.