Thread: ammunition on national flights

Originally Posted by Sideshow

I think it was how I scanned them? Still not sure but once I put it up as PDF it went through fine.
What I liked is that they got in contact saying that they could not open them.
Don't know of another airline that would bother especially coming from there head office!

Quite often the email system is set up so the staff cannot open the attachments even though the software is loaded to view it. This is to avoid accidentally opening something dodgy that can bring the whole system to a halt. They can view the type of file, just not from an email.

Well sitting in the departure lounge at Heathrow T3.
Now what I went through for the last hour was......interesting
Airline was fine yes sir all present and correct packed ammo correct guns correct
Wicked me thinks
Now comes the terminal staff really what a bunch of fucken morons!!!!!
Luckily I had one guy that saw the light when I produced all the paper work.
One look and he says cool you done ya home work I'll sort it for you.
Tells dip shit on the exray machine....."listen love it's not loaded even I can see that"!
Then I hear you can't take ammo on the plane!
He says again no it's going in the hole! Hear again look he can't take it on the plane! He says look there is no way that that 28kg back is going in the over head locker! It's going in the hold! Oh ok then
God it's like the blind leading the blind
Anyway my flights been called see you all in a days time
Tell someone up there to turn the heat up as it's 28 here today

Heading to nelson 3rd april, anyone know anymore about ammo and rifles on air nz, really need a double gun case too

Originally Posted by Blisters

Heading to nelson 3rd april, anyone know anymore about ammo and rifles on air nz, really need a double gun case too

I talked to my dad who works at the airport and some of his colleagues. I didn't seem to get a consistent answer. It seemed like ammo in separate case to rifle and bolt on your persons in your carry on was what they wanted. Best to call someone high up and see what they say.

Can borrow my 2 gun hard case if you promise to be a good boy to it lol.

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

It seemed like ammo in separate case to rifle and bolt on your persons in your carry on was what they wanted. Best to call someone high up and see what they say.



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FFS, “talk to someone high up”; how much time have you got to waste.....check the website of the respective airline and print the relative information off, so you’ve got proof, otherwise it’s you against the airline rep.

The other gem... “the bolt on your person in your carry on”.....that will end in tears at security scanning.

Oh and I work at the airport too.

B

Originally Posted by shift14

FFS, “talk to someone high up”; how much time have you got to waste.....check the website of the respective airline and print the relative information off, so you’ve got proof, otherwise it’s you against the airline rep.

The other gem... “the bolt on your person in your carry on”.....that will end in tears at security scanning.

Oh and I work at the airport too.

B

As I said. I talked to the ground staff and half of them didn't seem to know the rules so I was going by what I was told at the time. And when I searched the air nz website I found a lot more useful information.

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Regarding people getting caught out with original packaging and their ammunition. My best guess is it relates to correctly labelling DGs

From the website:
Airline safety requirements
Ammunition must be securely packed in division 1.4S (UN0012 or UN0014) and must not exceed 5kg gross weight.

Yeah its weird how theres no single answer, keen for case what do you drink? Waikato?(eww)

Originally Posted by Blisters

Yeah its weird how theres no single answer, keen for case what do you drink? Waikato?(eww)

Sure. I like asahi. But won't say no to Waikato haha.

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Also approved is this less exciting version as its actually small arms ammunition , inert projectile, not liable to explode in bulk.
The word explosive gets some peoples heart racing.

All the dangerous goods courses I've ever had the fortune of having to complete always go on about the original packaging.
i.e. correctly labelled and fit for purpose, I'd say the issue with the check in staff is a hang over from similar work based training, rather than good practical judgement.
Travelling with firearms and ammunition domestically is generally a non issue.

Yup 5kg max and original packaging for Ammo. I bring ammo back from CHC to AKL all the time and they ask me these questions. Aoraki Ammo customer!!

Originally Posted by hotsoup

Hiya.

I recently flew to Christchurch for a hunt, I had about 15x rounds inside a standard pouch with the elastic fitted holes which you put your bullets inside. On the flight from AKLD I had no issues with security however when I checked in my bag to the flight from Christchurch to AKLD the security person said there are new rules that all ammunition has to be stored in the 'original' packaging... I had all of my rem mag AMAX rounds confiscated... My pouch wasn't acceptable.

With these new said rules, how would I go about transporting them the next time? Would one of those green hardlid cases be acceptable?

There are a lot of regular travellers on this forum for competition shooting and hunting.

Just flew back from one yesterday with a heap of forum members.
When you get asked if your ammo is in original packaging you always say yes.

You are allowed 5kgs in your checkin luggage on both international and national flights.
After all. What is original packaging for ammunition you constructed yourself?






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OK so the original op is national flights.
Just a heads up on international and different airports.
It doesn't matter what your airline states. If the ground staff are not happy then it's not going on even if you are complying with everything that the airline states.
I did this when flying with Emirates to NZ. They where really good. They had all my forms printed and waiting for me on arrival at Heathrow.
But the ground staff, that is the secrurity had not a clue! Just to be clear that is not emirates staff but BAA ground staff. When exraying the two rifles I heard one say oh but we can't see that it's not loaded Another wanted to put the ammo on by it's self. Even though the airline states that it needs to be in a locked box and packed securely in your main hold bag.
I got there in the end. And both rifles our now back on NZ soil. On the way back Emirates even had all the paper work ready for the return trip can't get better than that when I did not even tell them that it was a one way trip for the rifles.

I suspect that this is the issue that you will start to face and see. I have read of people flying down to the South Island and then not being able to fly back with there ammo. Even though there ammo boxs have not changed from the original flight out.

When the NZ IPSC pistol team went to France many of them used saved factory boxes for their reloads.

I also heard some just printed their own labels and stuck them on MTM plastic boxes.

Never heard of anyone having a problem.