Thread: Another poacher ... Martinborough

in Herald today
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12254052

Hope they catch him/her .... but then again, the judiciary will probably let them off with a few hours of community service.

Had a similar incident happen up Pahiatua way recently. As the area NZDA rep I followed up with the police, the Natl police hq and copied in Ron Mark and Stuart Nash. Quite a blatant disregard of the old couples property (they bombed up around 7 Fallow behind a deer fence) but no charges laid except for warnings etc. The police apparently apprehending the perps on site but failing to take any statements...
leaves you quite disillusioned with the cops in general.

totally. And of course a gun register will solve all these issues - yeah, right.

Dickbags

Here is a 2011 from same area Pahiatua, seems time is frozen.

Link to Manawatu Standard article below:

Reward offered to catch deer poachers
Jill Galloway
14:19, Jul 26 2011
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Deer farmers have had a "gutsful" of poachers wounding and maiming their valuable trophy animals and are offering a reward to catch those responsible.

"It's not just the economic loss to local farmers that is of concern," said Central Region Deer Farmers branch chairman Andy Jarden.

Deer shot in the stomach also suffered an agonising death, he said.

Under the Animal Welfare Act, penalties for wilful mistreatment of animals can hit $50,000.

Police and the deer farmers branch said last year two valuable stud stags in hard antler were poached from a Colyton property. More recently, trophy red stags were shot in the stomach and left to die this year at Kanuka Wilderness Game Estate near Pahiatua.

Three fallow bucks, also in hard antler, were shot at Wheogo Downs near Sanson, Mr Jarden said.

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"To help with police enquiries, central region deer farmers have put up a $1000 reward for information leading to the successful prosecution of those involved."

Mr Jarden said deer farmers would not sit back and continue to take the losses, and while police investigations were well under way, no suspects had yet been identified.

The branch hoped the reward, as well as the knowledge the animals were left to suffer, "might be enough to encourage someone to dob in a family member or mate".

He said poachers should be warned that farmers would work tirelessly with local police.

Mr Jarden said a deer shot in the stomach would take one to two hours to die.

"I am a hunter, but I look for a clean kill. A shot to the head or neck – a clean shot kills instantly."

Mr Jarden said deer farmers were sick of losing animals.

"Deer have been poached for years. But we're not going to take it any more."

He said they might have been shot for venison, with only those killed immediately taken away.

"But who knows what the motive is? I can't understand it."

Sergeant Terry Gibbons of Pahiatua said if enough evidence surfaced to identify offenders, prosecution would follow.

He said possible offences included trespass, Arms Act breaches, theft and cruelty to animals.

"Anyone, regardless of whether they are hunters or not, cannot condone deliberately leaving an animal to die a slow painful death."

Anyone with information on these poaching incidents can contact Sergeant Terry Gibbons, Pahiatua police, on (06) 376 0130, or Senior Constable Mark Dickens, Bulls police, on (06) 322 2020.

The Manawatu Standard

A young fella was sentenced last week for 'illegal hunting'. Basically him and a mate walked up a public track, shot a 19pt stag 3x through the fence in a deer farm. Climbed the fence, put a 4th shot in the poor things head to end it. Gutted it, realised they couldn't carry it so went off and got a 3rd guy. Came back 2hrs later, cut a hole in the fence and dragged it out along the track. Some locals saw them, asked where he shot it 'DOC land', they knew full well no deer on DOC land locally, but one was mates with the farmer, took photos and rang him, farmer rang cops. Cops arrived to find said 3 loading stag onto his ute. Only charge was illegal hunting. I queried the cops about why just 1 charge, reply was the bosses won't let them stack charges. I asked the little cnut what rifle he used, he proudly said it was a .22. Sentence, 2k reparation for stag and 210 for fence, 150hrs community work, seizure of the rifle. Other 2 are juvies, so discharges for them.

Originally Posted by Daithi

A young fella was sentenced last week for 'illegal hunting'. Basically him and a mate walked up a public track, shot a 19pt stag 3x through the fence in a deer farm. Climbed the fence, put a 4th shot in the poor things head to end it. Gutted it, realised they couldn't carry it so went off and got a 3rd guy. Came back 2hrs later, cut a hole in the fence and dragged it out along the track. Some locals saw them, asked where he shot it 'DOC land', they knew full well no deer on DOC land locally, but one was mates with the farmer, took photos and rang him, farmer rang cops. Cops arrived to find said 3 loading stag onto his ute. Only charge was illegal hunting. I queried the cops about why just 1 charge, reply was the bosses won't let them stack charges. I asked the little cnut what rifle he used, he proudly said it was a .22. Sentence, 2k reparation for stag and 210 for fence, 150hrs community work, seizure of the rifle. Other 2 are juvies, so discharges for them.

That just shits me.

+1

too many levels of wrong

Appears the laws on these matters cover the situation - the problem that continues to surface is enforcement and prosecution. Someone is not taking these matters seriously and it's not the law abiding firearms user at fault?

After post-mortem they have decided the stag died after fighting. No exit wound or bullet fragments found.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12254245

Hold ya horses chaps

Actually guys at the moment it appears to have died from blood poisoning from an injury that looks like another stag did.
Post mortem shows no bullet fragments or exit wound....... of course with NZ's amazing media and the hype and bullshit they manage to put in a story it could have being done by Donald fucken Duck.

Originally Posted by Daithi

A young fella was sentenced last week for 'illegal hunting'. Basically him and a mate walked up a public track, shot a 19pt stag 3x through the fence in a deer farm. Climbed the fence, put a 4th shot in the poor things head to end it. Gutted it, realised they couldn't carry it so went off and got a 3rd guy. Came back 2hrs later, cut a hole in the fence and dragged it out along the track. Some locals saw them, asked where he shot it 'DOC land', they knew full well no deer on DOC land locally, but one was mates with the farmer, took photos and rang him, farmer rang cops. Cops arrived to find said 3 loading stag onto his ute. Only charge was illegal hunting. I queried the cops about why just 1 charge, reply was the bosses won't let them stack charges. I asked the little cnut what rifle he used, he proudly said it was a .22. Sentence, 2k reparation for stag and 210 for fence, 150hrs community work, seizure of the rifle. Other 2 are juvies, so discharges for them.

Should enacat medieval law and cut trigger fingers off.

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I should of read the whole story. If they cut the fence and took the animal they still get a hand chopped off.