Thread: The anti gun lobby

[QUOTE=Maca49;good as you collecting a pension, be nervous[/QUOTE]

I for one never expect to get one, even if I live to a ripe old age. Even tho I'm paying for others to get theres.

Originally Posted by ebf

Privilege could just as well give the impression that you are thankful for those freedoms, and appreciate the sacrifices of those that fought to ensure them.

True, but this entire time we have been debating rights vs privileges purely in the sense of legal entitlement. It should have been abundantly clear that I didn't mean it in sense of thankfulness in that comment.

Originally Posted by res

I for one never expect to get one, even if I live to a ripe old age. Even tho I'm paying for others to get theres.

I collect in AUGUST oh shit

Originally Posted by Banana

True, but this entire time we have been debating rights vs privileges purely in the sense of legal entitlement. It should have been abundantly clear that I didn't mean it in sense of thankfulness in that comment.

Why not?

Originally Posted by Maca49

I collect in AUGUST oh shit

I hope you make the most of it,you are obviously one of the generation who has both paid for the previous generation and who will be paid for by the following ,eg your getting back what you put in.
I don't think those of us under 40 who look out for our selfs are going to get so fairly treated as it's a clearly unaffordable system.

This thread is a circle jerk. Who cares about the wording, it's not an English class. How much do you value firearm ownership? Pretty high up there for me. I'll fight for it.

You just keep working you arse off so I can enjoy, I'll appreciate all you do, yep I really will. But I'll be working into my 70s health permitting so the mongrels will get most of it back. It's called incentives

Originally Posted by Beavis

This thread is a circle jerk. Who cares about the wording, it's not an English class. How much do you value firearm ownership? Pretty high up there for me. I'll fight for it.

Agree Beavis and a good reason for this forum to exist and grow!

Enjoying this. I don't believe that owning a fire arm in NZ is a privilege, if you meet the correct criteria then it's your right to own a fire arm. How ever if you abuse this right then you lose your right to own a fire arm. People may feel that it's a privilege to own a fire arm but in fact in law, providing the box's are ticked then guess what !! It's your right. The police can and will judge and access you as they are tasked, but at the end of the day box's ticked they and the juridical system have to grant the license. Be a sad place to be if we were a police or nanny state. Give nothing to the anti's, stay firm, it's your right. Right

Holy Hell! Gapped Axe, you've taken us full circle with this thread and you win the box of piss! Well done mate!

Originally Posted by Gapped axe

it's your right. Right

You need to throw in a couple of lefts GA or you will be marching in very tight circles.

Threw a couple of lefts last night, right down a female clients throat to dislodge a fish bone that had become wedge there. Pretty scary getting called into that as the woman had breathing difficulty and was panicking. Managed to calm her down enough to be able to get a finger down there and dislodge the bone with out her chomping my finger off. Had a medicinal whisky with the husband afterwards and then came home to rant on here about rights and privileges associated to fire arm ownership. Hope I wasn't to onerous, but Sidney may be on to it.

Good work GA, Taraweras a dangerous place! Re right or privilege ,I think we are discussing two perspectives here and both have merit

We fought a war with the crown over this very subject. With a win a privilege became a right. Now our government is trying to pass laws, that violate the highest law, to turn the right back into a privilege. Res is right. The only rights you keep are the ones you are willing to fight for.

Yip, the battle of Lexington and Concord was sparked by the British army's attempt to confiscate the colonists gun powder and canons (most of which were privately owned).