Thread: ARMS OFFICE NEWSLETTER WAIKATO DISTRICT

OK, before anybody says anything - please don't let this thread descend into a volley of name calling, accusations and general abuse.

Originally Posted by Ryan

OK, before anybody says anything - please don't let this thread descend into a volley of name calling, accusations and general abuse.

+ 1 BUT Reasonable response to the first post though I must say when I saw the must be a culler or club member I was surprised... Lets play nicely ...

"Would you be good enough to publish a correction to your newsletter; that will mean that NSA will not have to escalate the matter further."

Sweet reply......as in 'thumb hole stocks', the police 'do not' make the law, their job is to enforce it.......im starting to dig my trench now!!!!!!!

I think the police are in between a rock and a hard place. I mean to me in some ways getting a cat e cause its shinny and pretty and goes bang bang fast, seems sufficient....



Un-fortunately many other in-secure ppl seem to fill their underpants if they see you with a long black case let alone the actual gun.......yet I and most everyone else in here has undergone a police check to prove Im a fit and proper to hold and use one.

I really wonder if its a case of over-sensitivity...

Of course sooner or later we'll see an incident and the Pollies and then the police will cop it and then we will



regards

When i read the opening post i thought well there goes any chance of me ever having a rattle gun.(because there is no way i could attend enough club shoots same as pistols)

But there is hope it would seem

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The main point to me was the bit about being a club member or providing proof of being a professional culler.. The reply was correct to state that those two bits there are not in
any documentation. So that's someone's personal spin on it. To also say if you cant meet those requirements don't bother applying well that hardly a how can we help you today welcome is it ?
You can gain E Cat if you meet the security requirements, the fit and proper person requirements etc. You don't have to be a club member or professional culler at all.

I m happy someone is trying to clear that bit up as its fairly important.. I was starting to think Hmmmm well this is getting harder by the minute same as VC...

Misinterpretation can cost people their rights , things need to be clear and cut and dried.

Originally Posted by National Shooters Assoc

It is our understanding that the police executive agrees with us that police may not prescribe lawful sufficient and proper purposes to use firearms (including MSSAs) and refuse endorsements when the applicant's reasons for wanting a firearm fall outside that prescription.

Interesting statement this... wonder if the police executive would agree that that they agree with the NSA Maybe best left for them to comment rather than putting words in their mouth ?

Why don't you stop shit stirring...

You might not agree with everything the likes of the NSA stand for ... but frankly when people from the roughly the same side of an issue, want to continually chip away at others who actually try to do something about the likes of the police over-extending their authority.... then frankly you are just wrong..

Happy, I kinda looked sideways at the point of being a pro culler too, I guess this is a letter from one arms officer in one part of the country ( as possibly their view spun into it. )
But reading other people's comments the arms act in itself hasn't changed ( yet )

What would be neat, is if the police website in their firearms category had a Q & A section where we as joe blogs can submit a question or seek clarification and get a "National Response" so there is no confusion.

Just my 2 cents worth.

I can see people's point buy an A class today all legit then next day it's an E and your behind the ball.

For the record, user National Shooters Assoc are you Richard Lincoln, or is this user someone else representing the NSA ?

Originally Posted by ebf

For the record, user National Shooters Assoc are you Richard Lincoln, or is this user someone else representing the NSA ?

ebf - Please read Ryan's post above.

NSA's post above is bloody helpful for people with "A" cat semi's like myself and the thousands of others in this boat, put it bluntly if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be enjoying using them.

Me off to Aussie now be interesting to see how downhill this goes in a week or so he he The response from NSA was ok IMO anyway possibly a bit long but Ok

Cheers. Happy

300winmag, Ryan's post asked people to "please don't let this thread descend into a volley of name calling, accusations and general abuse."

I am trying to establish in the user "National Shooters Assoc" is in fact Richard Lincoln or not. He has previously been banned from this forum for abusive behaviour under the username "krewzr". If it is Richard, then I am quite happy for him to join under such a public username, since whatever he says will be linked directly to his "organisation"

Thats crap... you don't need to raise the issue if you follow your own logic...

Well he's not about to put his hand up is he, especially after all the other crap that went on.
Anyway I guess if a letter bearing the NSA letterhead gets sent to the coppers the Brains Trust will know about it of which he would be a member.
It's very well written and seems to be factually correct.

As an aside I was in the Manukau Arms office the other day getting an import permit sorted when I popped the question about getting an "E"
The Arms Officer couldn't have been more helpful, seemed bloody easy to get but I might have been a tad to trusting, I'll wait and see what comes out of the NSA's legal stoush. The import permit was sorted on the spot, walked out 5mins later happy as Larry.

I loved his posts on both sites but shit there's some uptight gun owners out there.