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    Quote Originally Posted by blip View Post
    I went to 4 buyback places to hand shit in. The thing stuck out like dogs balls to me was fuck all skss being handed in. They must be the most common semi center fire in nz other than an ar
    I'd go out on a limb and state that as AR's only became commonplace fairly recently in the picture after a couple of legal challenges to the import restrictions, I would be absolutely surprised if the numbers of AR's got anywhere close to the amount of SK series firearms imported. The problem we currently have is that we are still in this situation of trying to classify a firearm as safe by it's appearance and features. That's completely irrelevant to anything to do with safety, a firearm lying on the floor has never in the history of inanimate objects ever gotten up by itself, loaded itself and pulled it's own trigger.

    Unfortunately, bad people will use whatever they can get to do bad things and the main problem we have at the moment is a system of governance and regulation that appears to not understand the effects of it's actions and how to actually fix what they are identifying as weak points in their system. It would seem that cut-and-paste UN-sponsored 'solutions' aren't helping a jot as well as dumb ideas imported by a bunch of used import Pomgolian bobbies.
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    when has a government contrated job ever gone within budget LOL????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    when has a government contrated job ever gone within budget LOL????
    IRD came in under budget and actually before the projected completion date. Thats prob the biggest IT project NZ's ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HG Man View Post
    IRD came in under budget and actually before the projected completion date. Thats prob the biggest IT project NZ's ever seen.
    IRD have a huge budget..they get a huge hunk of OUR money to play with...this register isnt a fixed amount job as the thing will continue to grow continually.someone will still have to do the admin and follow up....
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    Still not successful. Can't contact them, not enough people to process emails so they've stopped that as an option, MyIR never seems to work or get a response and booking a callback for three days time when you don't know what you are planning tomorrow is laughable. The system is so good I got a printed letter chasing me up for my last employer stopping contributions to Kiwisaver (in their defence they tend to do that when ACC farks you around so much that the employer buys you out of the contract and you are no longer employed by them) but if IRD had bothered to check they would have seen exactly whats going on with over a 2-year block of ACC flagged payments on my returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    Still not successful. .
    Sounds like a painful experience. I deal with them a fair bit and I haven't had any issues like you have. From what I've heard, its cases like yours where theres not a SOP to guide them, thats where it all goes wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    I'd go out on a limb and state that as AR's only became commonplace fairly recently in the picture after a couple of legal challenges to the import restrictions, I would be absolutely surprised if the numbers of AR's got anywhere close to the amount of SK series firearms imported. The problem we currently have is that we are still in this situation of trying to classify a firearm as safe by it's appearance and features. That's completely irrelevant to anything to do with safety, a firearm lying on the floor has never in the history of inanimate objects ever gotten up by itself, loaded itself and pulled it's own trigger.

    Unfortunately, bad people will use whatever they can get to do bad things and the main problem we have at the moment is a system of governance and regulation that appears to not understand the effects of it's actions and how to actually fix what they are identifying as weak points in their system. It would seem that cut-and-paste UN-sponsored 'solutions' aren't helping a jot as well as dumb ideas imported by a bunch of used import Pomgolian bobbies.
    What do you recon the second most common centerfire semi after the sks would of been in nz not including collector ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blip View Post
    What do you recon the second most common centerfire semi after the sks would of been in nz not including collector ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
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    Ahh yep, I was grouping them all together as 'SK-type' firearms...
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    I would be thinking something in the sporting designs like a Browning? I'm honestly unsure as to the exact answer here, and I have pondered it a bit. The Browning would be up on my list just because of the length of time it has been manufactured vs the more modern options giving more time for them to dribble in.

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    well possibly easier to ask what OTHER semi centrefires were actually still legal here....there may well still have been a few M1 carbines but BAR remington woodsman and the ruger mini 14 would be most common....probably have to be the mini 14 mini 30 in its various calibres hands down
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    rightteho -weve had a memvber sxtate on here via a FACsource that the register is up for review ...with option to discard after 5yrs if not viable ...hmmm seems massive lack of comms somewhere saw PC Coster 48hrs ago state it could take a decade to be implemented fully to 100%function ..now gone to 20yrs.............???????????MAKE YA BLOODY MINDS UP

    Andy me old china-your beloved register could be kicked into touch post OCT14 -or have you forgotten??????.

    As for Chris Cahill-a dyed in the wool trade unionist with pronounced echolalic proclivities overun with boundless optimism yet to be proven in any way shape or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kotuku View Post
    echolalic proclivities overun with boundless optimism
    I had to google that, right you are though my old china.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.3 View Post
    I had to google that, right you are though my old china.
    Im glad you liked it -feel free to use it if you meet one of theses so called experts who abound in our upper echelons of governmental and public service.even better add pereserverative before the echolalic -whilst theyre pondering that you may then utter the following"ihave in our brief interact ion ascertained you are a very expansive example of the shortcomings of the human DNA.Furthermore I have reason to beleive you only gained your present position due to bein g declined for the role of condom washer and recycler in your local saloon of iniquity .
    oh yes before i forget ..Its your bloody shout gorse in the pocket!

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    Yeah, Coster intimated a 'decade or two' to 'see the benefits'... And in his next sentence that the "arms regulatory space is not where we want it in NZ".

 

 

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