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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
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    Macca, had a think about your initial comments again (tighten controls and 12g), and thought that you might have been taking the piss by applying gun-control rhetoric to the police. If that was the case, my brain was obviously not in first gear yesterday.

    But having read your latest comments, I don't know - it's kind of Genghis Khan meets Jane Fonda

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Macca, had a think about your initial comments again (tighten controls and 12g), and thought that you might have been taking the piss by applying gun-control rhetoric to the police. If that was the case, my brain was obviously not in first gear yesterday.

    But having read your latest comments, I don't know - it's kind of Genghis Khan meets Jane Fonda
    ebf Most is tongue in cheek, except when Im serious. Your choice, but this should never happen to a cop, I dont go to work and expose myself to this type of treatment, when it happens to a cop hit it with a sledge hammer, No cop should be hurt or killed in doing their job,
    It is unacceptable.
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    I don't think the problem is with lack of prison time, it's that life in prison is far to comfortable. They are in there with their mates and TV etc. Should be solitary confinement with nothing but educational books to read, you might even be able to reduce sentences if it is that much less desirable. IMHO

    Most of the "hard" criminals I have met have either looked forward to prison or aren't fussed at all going back.

    Pisses me off that the one assault charge that relates to assaulting Police holds less of a sentence than the equivalent common assault charge.
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    + 1 on Time to suit the crime. Some standardisation for crimes taking out the wide range of options would make things
    clearer to the crims. IE: Assault PO or his dog mimimum X Years sentence. Steal car same or burglary or assault or drug crimes or whatever.
    Get firmer on them and no transparency do this result = you get this.
    Support Sensible Sentencing for sure.
    Seen results a few times its the victims and families hurt the most and then a soft sentence to the poor crim cos he s or shes had a hard little life..
    Thats the ultimate smack in the face for the victims and its bull really. Then it seems the crims get a reasonably soft ride through the prison system.. (Note "seems" have no experience at all about this)
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    Sisters fucking lame ex boyfriend had $15,000 worth of stolen shit, he got 3 months home d. Fucking bullshit as

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    Re: Cop beaten and side arm taken.

    A bit on one news about excessive force.
    ffs he was disarmed and beaten, clearly not enough force was used.

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    [QUOTE=veitnamcam;74280]A bit on one news about excessive force.
    ffs he was disarmed and beaten, clearly not enough force was used.

    No where near enough force & the wrong guy in hospital .
    Almost makes me wonder if he was set up for that beating .
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    I'm gonna make myself unpopular and say that while it was an unfortunate outcome for the officer, he made a bad judgement call in deciding to push for an arrest. When he realised it was going sideways at the very beginning he should have backed off and waited for another day.

    The only time he should really have pushed his luck with the arrest is if other members of the public etc would have been put in immediate and serious harm’s way if the guy was left to walk around.

    Short answer is he fucked up and paid the price.

    Typically sole charge cops are chosen (even though you actually apply for the slot) because they tend to be a little more relaxed, realistic, calm and have a bit of experience. Unfortunately I'm not seeing those traits in this example.

    Everyone makes mistakes though and ultimately he got away pretty lightly given the depth of poo he got himself into.

    I hope that he recovers quickly, learns from the experience and comes back an even better cop than before.
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    Yeh with you on that VC. Seems that what was reported is being refuted by many good citizens.
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    See the thing on the news where they cut that guys hand off in mali or some place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    See the thing on the news where they cut that guys hand off in mali or some place.
    Yes I did Toby. It has actually been a quite common punishment for theft in Islamic countries through the centuries. the reason it is on the news is that the Al Queda sympathisers that are trying to take control of Mali are using that sort of punishment to make the locals toe the line.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    Re: Cop beaten and side arm taken.

    Missed that

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    He broke the rules but they werent clear on what he broke.

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    Hold on there Kiwi, the cop was tackled by a guy who ran across from the other side of the road. Then everyone pounced on him. Had he waited for backup, the guy who he had the warrant for may have bailed.
    Kawhia is turning into a bad place compared to the quaint fishing town it used to be. Maybe Griff has been stationed there for ages?
    Previous comments by others about prison being too nice, totally agree. It ought to be cold bare concrete floors, no windows, bad meals (with barely sufficient nutritional value) and make them work hard for no gain.
    3 serious convictions = string em up. No pussy footing "oh he's had a hard life" soft touch sentences...
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