Thread: Could we do more

Personally, I haven't shot anyone lately, so I don't think I need to do more

I believe so, yes, which reinforces my point

Exactly what I said ��, Perhaps you could write one for gun safes, or just copy bs7558 ?

Originally Posted by Taff

Exactly what I said ��, Perhaps you could write one for gun safes, or just copy bs7558 ?

As I already mentioned in my previous post.

NOTE: New Zealand already has an equivalent to BS 7558. AS/NZS 3809: 1998.

Originally Posted by Daggers_187

As I already mentioned in my previous post.

Have you read it ?

I see the usual lack going on. You lot do realize why safes/lockups were initially bought in? Nothing to do with security and everything to do with stopping kids playing with guns....

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

I see the usual lack going on. You lot do realize why safes/lockups were initially bought in? Nothing to do with security and everything to do with stopping kids playing with guns....

Don't have kids and never have them over, does that mean I can have them sitting in the open....? No and I don't mind having them in a safe, piece of mind when I'm not home and someone breaks in

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

I see the usual lack going on. You lot do realize why safes/lockups were initially bought in? Nothing to do with security and everything to do with stopping kids playing with guns....

And the laws have been spectacularly effective in this regard

Oh there is big kids around too.

Have you lot not heard of battery grinders? Have a hole in a flash safe in minutes, not many of them. Of course if there is power handy a 9" will do a safe fucking fast. Hot knife through butter.

[QUOTE=Mooseman;505695]Monitored alarm is a good piece of mind. I have seen a 3mm steel gun cabinet attacked with an axe and after repeated blows (stuffed the axe) the frame by the top of the door was dented in some but it did not open. This safe only had two locking pins by the lock so even the cheaper safes seem to be able to take a pounding.

Monitored alarms are useless unless the security company is instructed to call the police on activation and then the police actually turn up in a reasonable time.
What do you think a security guard is going to do if he catches someone taking your stuff if he even turns up in a reasonable amount of time.
He's legally not allowed to lay a hand on him, nor are you if you caught him.
Protection of property laws only allow you or someone else to go as far as pulling the item off them.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

I think most people who value there firearms will do the best they can to protect them.

Agreed

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Have you lot not heard of battery grinders? Have a hole in a flash safe in minutes, not many of them. Of course if there is power handy a 9" will do a safe fucking fast. Hot knife through butter.

If they're in your garage/house wtf do they need a battery grinder for? Ain't no lock on your power plugs is there?

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Have you lot not heard of battery grinders? Have a hole in a flash safe in minutes, not many of them. Of course if there is power handy a 9" will do a safe fucking fast. Hot knife through butter.

Won't be getting in to my safe easily... 4 gauge steel welded around reinforced concrete with steel meshing imbedded through all concrete plains among a myriad of other security measures put in place.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Won't be getting in to my safe easily... 4 gauge steel welded around reinforced concrete with steel meshing imbedded through all concrete plains among a myriad of other security measures put in place.

Half a stick of power gel taped to one side?!

Yea, a good safe is only going to stop a theft who is not prepared.regardless of category its certified for. But a unprepared theft should not be able to kick open a safe like some of the stuff that being used-a bike lock would actually be more secure than some of that.