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Nobody in the world needs to carry a gun, until you need to shoot someone. Americans just have the luxury of being given the option to legally do so.

Originally Posted by steven

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I mean do people really need to carry concealed weapons in the USA?

steven

It is their Constitutional Right to Bear Arms (2nd amendment).

Some choose to uphold their rights and carry ....some don't.

Unfortunately people do need to carry concealed weapons in the USA and elsewhere for that matter, simply to protect themselves.

Having the right to carry a concealed weapon for protection and invoking your right to do so is one thing.

Carrying a loaded pistol in you handbag and allowing your 2 year old to play with it is another.

In this case she has paid for her stupidity with her life.

Cheers
Pete

I was thinking about this yesterday , ... I have no prob with conceled carry or even open carry .... but one up the spout (if its a semi) is a little extreme , if it was a revolver then there is always one ready to go ..... and if its like mine , no safety then a pull on the trigger results in a boom .... its fukkin sad this has happened , that poor kid growing up will be scared for life ... killed their mom .... the purse should have been on mums shoulder , or elsewhere away from kids .... a few simple firearms rules were broken , and this is the result ....
happy 2015

Originally Posted by stumpy

I was thinking about this yesterday , ... I have no prob with conceled carry or even open carry .... but one up the spout (if its a semi) is a little extreme

It is foolish to carry a firearm for defensive purposes which is not loaded. Do you think the Police would carry their pistols in condition 3? When you need your firearm in a potentially life threatening situation, you do not want to be already at a disadvantage.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

It is foolish to carry a firearm for defensive purposes which is not loaded. Do you think the Police would carry their pistols in condition 3? When you need your firearm in a potentially life threatening situation, you do not want to be already at a disadvantage.

from what I have seen of police with firearms , condition 3 may be the best for them ,.... situational awareness should be first , if it goes to amber rack the slide ....

Originally Posted by stumpy

from what I have seen of police with firearms , condition 3 may be the best for them ,.... situational awareness should be first , if it goes to amber rack the slide ....

It can go from yellow to black in the blink of an eye.

If you carry a gun for a living, it's loaded.

I won't comment on the Israeli's technique. ...

I have carried handguns for self-defense in various parts of the World. They have always been fully loaded, either a revolver or a semi-auto. Single-action autos (ie; M1911, etc) I have always carried cocked and locked. D/A autos and revolvers have always been carried 'good to go'. The US is basically a fairly polite society until you become a 'minority' interloper in various (predominantly poor) areas. Vigilance and confidence, coupled with sensible choices, have kept me from harm or having to reveal that I was carrying a weapon. Carrying one that is not ready for instant action is just plain stupid. The alternative is only chosen by those that have a victim mentality, rather than confidence in their own ability to protect themselves or their family. Such (fortunately rare) life-threatening events happen so fast that instant action is the deciding factor!

A client of mine said that the gun laws in the States are amazing as he did a 2.5 month tour thru on his Harley. No one is rude because you never know "if they are packing heat".He witnessed some scary incidents in family diners of thugs trying the tuff trick. Whammo the 45 gets pointed at the offender. Issue over.

Originally Posted by TeRei

A client of mine said that the gun laws in the States are amazing as he did a 2.5 month tour thru on his Harley. No one is rude

No one is rude in the states? Hahaha

Funny thing about the "right to bear arms" is it's a throw back from Brittish occupation when they confiscated muskets etc.. from the general population - think Boston tea party era.

Not really relevant in todays society - unfortunatly with such a large population changing laws , amnestys etc just wont work.

I guess there's no relation between their liberal gun laws and their very high shooting rate then....

I can see this thread getting ugly.

Originally Posted by oneshot

I can see this thread getting ugly.

Ultimately I'm very happy living in NZ

I heard a cop over there accidently shot his wife.

Originally Posted by Dundee

I heard a cop over there accidently shot his wife.

I heard a hunter in New Zealand accidentally shot his mate.