Thread: Darwin is getting slow in his old age.

Originally Posted by smidey

Is a comedy routine not a university lecture

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And that's all it is. Just about everything he said was based on lies, misinformation, twisted reasoning and a general lack of knowledge on the subject. I mean his very first point, which his whole gun control argument/routine is based on, was a blatant lie. He had a good point on the 2nd Amendment being exactly that, an amendment.

Originally Posted by Banana

And that's all it is. Just about everything he said was based on lies, misinformation, twisted reasoning and a general lack of knowledge on the subject. I mean his very first point, which his whole gun control argument/routine is based on, was a blatant lie.

and your point is?? i'll say it again....... it's a comedy show which means it isn't serious.

now i understand that laughter is not for you but there are many of us that enjoy it. chill out and watch his act on foreplay, you might learn something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5YCtTjalg4

Originally Posted by smidey

and your point is?? i'll say it again....... it's a comedy show which means it isn't serious.

Originally Posted by smidey

...and what he had to say about it is what I'd like to say

Um, that. You seem to have back tracked on your initial post.

Yea, it's a comedy show. I found it fucking hilarious and laughed nearly the whole way through, but he's clearly trying to make a serious point with his routine and sway the audience to some degree. From the sound of the audience in the clip, they were buying the bullshit he was dishing out.

Castle Doctrine Law or Stand your ground Law is what this country needs.

haha so i refer to a comedy skit that makes it a serious statement? forget that, don't answer. i give up.

Originally Posted by smidey

haha so i refer to a comedy skit that makes it a serious statement? forget that, don't answer. i give up.

Problem is musicians and actors etc often try to make political statements through their art, which makes them "serious" as they carry more weight than just an ordinary Joe Blogs. What is also a worry is that they can say any un-substantiated bull** they want and the other side has no right to reply on an equal footing.

I think there is a lot of peoples fear of the unknown being utilised by some to get what they want no matter the logic or fairness of the issue.

No, you mention his gun control routine and imply you agree with it, then later say it's just comedy and isn't serious. What point are you trying to make? You don't seem to be able to decide.

it's a joke, tough concept for you clearly but that's what happens on forums sometimes.

I'm not going to post any further about this with you.

Yes it's comedy, it's a joke, everyone realizes that and I'm not disputing that, please don't repeat it again. I found it hilarious, so you can stop trying to make out I'm some caveman that doesn't understand humor.

You mention Jim's routine and say "what he had to say about it is what I'd like to say" (i.e. you agree with his viewpoint on the subject), when it's pointed out that Jim's viewpoint is based purely on bullshit and ignorance, you back track and try to save face by repeatedly saying 'it's just a joke, it's not serious', like that somehow defends you from agreeing with him.

Now if I was an arsehole, I could write something like 'Rational thought, a tough concept for you clearly', but I'm not, so I won't.

Originally Posted by Banana

Yes it's comedy, it's a joke, everyone realizes that and I'm not disputing that, please don't repeat it again. I found it hilarious, so you can stop trying to make out I'm some caveman that doesn't understand humor.

You mention Jim's routine and say "what he had to say about it is what I'd like to say" (i.e. you agree with his viewpoint on the subject), when it's pointed out that Jim's viewpoint is based purely on bullshit and ignorance, you back track and try to save face by repeatedly saying 'it's just a joke, it's not serious', like that somehow defends you from agreeing with him.

Now if I was an arsehole, I could write something like 'Rational thought, a tough concept for you clearly', but I'm not, so I won't.

But you did write it, quite clearly.

This thread was good until your little spat.

Originally Posted by Savage1

But you did write it, quite clearly.

This thread was good until your little spat.

I rearranged an insult he used on me (twice) to reflect my feelings on his posts, and tried to make the point that only arseholes need to resort to insults. No doubt there's a nicer way I could have put it, but I can't edit now.

Banana, so I take it you're one of the 10% he mentions

I actually though a lot of what he said made sense, comedy or not.

And can you please explain to me how firearms started those fires ? I'm very confused on that point...

No, like I said, I found it very funny. The stuff about the constitution and and the 2nd amendment made sense, but a lot of the firearms stuff didn't (to me anyway), and that's to be expected, it's coming from a guy who admittedly hates guns and probably has no experience with them.

Where in the definition of massacre does it include that it had to be caused by a firearm?

Originally Posted by Banana

Where in the definition of massacre does it include that it had to be caused by a firearm?

Ye gawds, you're not studying to be a lawyer are you ?

This is a thread about a gun related death.

The youtube clip was specifically about gun control, and I think it is safe to say that he meant gun related massacre, they did afterall introduce gun controls in Aus, not bans on matches, knives, motor vehicles, tsunamis or a horde of other things that may or may not cause massacres.

And if you think only people that are ignorant about firearms are pro gun-control I think you make a big mistake. I have been around firearms most my life, used them in military service, carried a concealed firearm for many years, and have competed in several competitive shooting codes, yet I am not opposed to gun control or firearm restrictions...

Originally Posted by ebf

Ye gawds, you're not studying to be a lawyer are you ?

This is a thread about a gun related death.

The youtube clip was specifically about gun control, and I think it is safe to say that he meant gun related massacre, they did afterall introduce gun controls in Aus, not bans on matches, knives, motor vehicles, tsunamis or a horde of other things that may or may not cause massacres.

And if you think only people that are ignorant about firearms are pro gun-control I think you make a big mistake. I have been around firearms most my life, used them in military service, carried a concealed firearm for many years, and have competed in several competitive shooting codes, yet I am not opposed to gun control or firearm restrictions...

Maybe he did mean gun related massacres, but that's not what he said. Even if it's what he meant it still wasn't true.

I don't think that only people that are ignorant about firearms are pro gun-control, but I do think a lot of people that are pro gun-control have based their views on ignorance.
If you've gathered the information, have experience, then reach a conclusion based on those things, your opinion is very valid, whatever it is.