Thread: Do AO's

Originally Posted by Savage1

I imagine they would revoke your licence because they can't confirm you have a safe way to store the firearms, then they could enter under SAS Act or apply for a warrant.

Could possibly have good cause to suspect from the start but it would be pushing it.

I highly doubt that it would stand up in court if you refused to let an officer who showed up on your doorstep do a spot inspection then t hey took that as grounds to revoke your license and search the place anyway. I am not a lawyer but that seems like a gross breach of our freedoms

Originally Posted by gimp

Specifically,

I'm sure there is/was an actual distance put on this.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

I'm sure there is/was an actual distance put on this.

Not in any legislation I've seen. There is the guideline of 'not within 500meters of a track on DoC land' which isn't in the legislation but the Conservation Act allows Hunting Permits to be issued subject to any conditions the director general thinks fit, so if it's a condition if the permit, you're breaking the law if you break that condition.

I don't have a permit in front of me to check what conditions are on it.

It's not illegal to shoot out of your window unless you are frightening, annoying or endangering persons or property.

There are no distances etc.

Trust me.

Originally Posted by Savage1

It's not illegal to shoot out of your window unless you are frightening, annoying or endangering persons or property.

There are no distances etc.

Trust me.

So the guy in Southland (Gorge road area) that was duck shooting on a pond within 60m from a public road and got charged with discharging a firearm within 200m of a public place, he would like you rule and not the judges one.

Originally Posted by crzyman

So the guy in Southland (Gorge road area) that was duck shooting on a pond within 60m from a public road and got charged with discharging a firearm within 200m of a public place, he would like you rule and not the judges one.

There is no such charge, he would have been annoying, frightening or endangering persons or property. No piece of Arms Act legislation states a distance you must be. I'm more than happy to be proved wrong.

Trust me

I've never found anything in the Arms Act about random inspections, does anyone know what legislation this is covered under if at all?

If not specifically mentioned surely a random inspection requires your consent, otherwise it's an illegal search?

The requirements and details of Inspection periods etc and a whole bunch of other instructions for the Police that pertain to licence administration are in the Police Firearms Manual, not to be confused with the Arms Act or Regulations, but to be refered to in addition.

one interesting paragraph.
The computer system has been set up in such a way that each Firearms Licence carries
an “A” endorsement. This is to enable the recording of sporting long arms when universal
registration of firearms becomes law.

Originally Posted by madjon_

one interesting paragraph.
The computer system has been set up in such a way that each Firearms Licence carries
an “A” endorsement. This is to enable the recording of sporting long arms when universal
registration of firearms becomes law.

That's real interesting madjon. Been there and done it. Licensed till 10 years after I'm dead and now it's in place go go back to real fucking old school. (That they got rid of)

AO's can and will, turn up unannounced if you have an E cat. They ask permission but. It has happened to me a couple times. They must think I am shifty

@toby, I agree with savage, not as far as I am aware.

Here is the code,

Arms Code (Firearms) | New Zealand Police

On private property as long as you and everyone else are safe it should be fine. The code is aimed at safety so unless some of the 7 rules are being broken....

Blast away...

I've had a firearms licence since 1981 with "B", "C" & "E" endorsements since the early 90's

I live a couple of ks from the local Police station where the area AO is located.

I've never had a spot inspection.

You fellas who have must be dodgy alright.

But I did have the AO leave a message on my home phone this morning .... seems it's relicencing time for me.

Must school the missus up on what to say when I'm asked to leave the room

Last time she told him I had one gun thingy out in the shed somewhere

After he'd looked in my safe he said to me "She has no abosultely idea whats out here does she". Kinda best for all concerned if we keep it they way too was my reply.

Cheers
Pete

A few years back after I changed address I had 2 uniformed cops do a spot inspection

@P38 so they re-interview ppl when you apply for a new licence?