Thread: Is this 'fair'?

Originally Posted by Bent Barrel

Funny story; on a building site, tradie rocks up with pole sander, just so happens to fit nicely in a plastic gun case, consulting engineer spots said gun case, phone calls made to site management, all hell breaks loose, tradie gets a new a***hole reamed, said tradie opens said gun case to with the explanation along lines of never assume, Alcapone carried a violin case

consulting engineer would from that day forthwith be called Karen and delivered as much shit as humanly possible..... dog pooh collected in bucket and left beside drivers door of his vechile too...... its a plastic case..the nailguns made in distinctive shape would be great around said Karen too...what a plonker.

Originally Posted by tiroahunta

Start playing guitars….or those country folk banjos…

Yes you are right @7mmwsm. Need to stand up. Stand up though n possibly lose ya license ….bridge too far for some…


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Would be a game bureaucrat to try taking your licence over a empty ammo box or gun bag.
Although I agree it would be anguish I could do without.

My old Landrover had a 3 gun rack in back window , used it all the time back in the 80's and 90's wouldn't dream of doing it now.

I've heard stories from some old guys that used to jump on the bus with a rifle back in the day and no one raised an eyebrow

Originally Posted by blip

I've heard stories from some old guys that used to jump on the bus with a rifle back in the day and no one raised an eyebrow

Hey you. Some of them aren't that old.

Originally Posted by blip

I've heard stories from some old guys that used to jump on the bus with a rifle back in the day and no one raised an eyebrow

When I got my first rifle in 1970, in chch, I went to the cop shop to get my permit, walked to Tisdales (?) got my firearm, strolled back to police hq to register it, then back to my car. No eyebrows raised then, either.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

I was about to ask that same question.
The firearm is not visible/concealed if it is in a case.
If the case has to be concealed, then does an empty case have to be concealed also?
I have heard of people being reprimanded for having an empty ammo box visible in their vehicle.
People need to grow some balls and stand up to bullshit intimidation such as this.

There was a guy in Fendalton a few years back that got the full Armed offenders response when a numpty called the cops on him "carrying a firearm in public"....I use quote marks as once they stopped him they found out the near new gunbag had been purchased via trademe and coincidentally the seller was less than a block away so he walked. Bag was apparently folded in half while walking ......

I can almost understand a overpaid numpty who knows nothing about firearms potentially being scared by a cammo piece of cloth.....but the AO squad should have known that way before they got that close.....

Please bear in mind this was published in the Press so like all media some of the veracity has potential for Editorial (artistic?) license....

Originally Posted by blip

I've heard stories from some old guys that used to jump on the bus with a rifle back in the day and no one raised an eyebrow

Pack and rifle were left unattended at the railway station while you wandered off to the local "milk bar" or pub. Crime hasn't increased since those days?

I used to carry my recurve hunting bow, unstrung but visible with a quiver of arrows in the metro in Paris on my way to the train station for the weekend.
The funniest was when I switched to the compound bow, because that one could not get untrung.
I remember a particular morning in the metro where a very worried gentleman came to ask me if it was the same bow as seen in the Rambo2 movie shown on tv the night before. To which I said, not the same brand but yep it can do the same damage. But I only hunt 4 legged animals with it.

These are things you could not do anymore nowdays.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Pack and rifle were left unattended at the railway station while you wandered off to the local "milk bar" or pub. Crime hasn't increased since those days?

Younger Brother picked his first centrefire rifle up on the way home from school in his uniform. No drivers license yet at that stage so walked from Gunshop to Dads shop in town holding it and went home with dad after work.....

Originally Posted by blip

I've heard stories from some old guys that used to jump on the bus with a rifle back in the day and no one raised an eyebrow

I resemble that remark

Biked home from Gun City in Barbadoes St 41 yrs ago with a .303 over my shoulder in school uniform. First rifle no one batted an eye couldn't afford a gun bag.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

I was about to ask that same question.
The firearm is not visible/concealed if it is in a case.
If the case has to be concealed, then does an empty case have to be concealed also?
I have heard of people being reprimanded for having an empty ammo box visible in their vehicle.
People need to grow some balls and stand up to bullshit intimidation such as this.

My 10c and anyone in the know please feel free to correct:

If the case conceals the firearm then the firearm is concealed as per law. As has been pointed out, this is not a particularly effective way of concealing a firearm. When one reads into the intent of the law, it is to avoid people knowing there is a firearm in the vehicle when it is left unattended.
For at least 25 years The arms code has provided similar guidance for leaving a firearm in a vehicle where this is the best option in an unforseeable circumstance.

Putting the technicalities of the law to the side for a moment, I don’t leave items visible in my vehicle that suggest the presence of firearms because it reduces the chance of someone breaking into the vehicle. When I leave a gunbag in the vehicle to go hunting, I fold it and put it under the seat, otherwise it looks like there could be a firearm in the vehicle. Same as not leaving any other valuables visible in an unattended vehicle.

You could have a firearm in a case in a car and be compliant or you could have a firearm in a case in a car where the case cant be seen and be compliant plus reduce the chance of vehicle break ins.

As for covering a case, an oilskin coat works pretty good for that, I just keep mine in the vehicle and it comes in handy for rainy days too.

I leave my gunbag/case in plain view but open so clearly no gun inside it.....when parked at roadend etc but agree with you longshot,out of sight out of mind..I also park my wagon on as steep of sideways angle as I can..good luck jacking it up to pinch wheels.