Thread: Firearm licencing

Great, a police car up your drive with a policeman in uniform! Just when you didn't want your neighbours to know you have firearms for security reasons. Makes you wonder about how much they really care

Originally Posted by Maca49

Great, a police car up your drive with a policeman in uniform! Just when you didn't want your neighbours to know you have firearms for security reasons. Makes you wonder about how much they really care

A bit of a quantum leap: cops up driveway = property owner has guns?

Sheesh...

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

A bit of a quantum leap: cops up driveway = property owner has guns?

Sheesh...

My neighbor's curtains will be twitching expecting (hopin) to see if I be taken away in handcuffs. There goes the reputation south even more.

Originally Posted by Doghead

My neighbor's curtains will be twitching expecting (hopin) to see if I be taken away in handcuffs. There goes the reputation south even more.

Surely they may not jump to the hasty conclusion that you are an evil firearms owner.
They could even suspect you of other lesser crimes eg drug dealing, burglery and so on.

Saw a copy of the official letter the other day from Mike McIIraith advising the use of uniforms to supplement their civilians for vetting.

@zimmer - the old ‘be careful of what you wish for’ syndrome.!

‘The licensing process is taking too long - we need more people doing the vetting’

Sooo uniform cops get drafted in to do the vetting and ‘oh no we don’t want THAT!’

(Not getting at YOU simmer!)

Originally Posted by mikee

Try this
https://forms.police.govt.nz/complaint

Just sent it off......fingers crossed

Originally Posted by Rushy

Scouser the Police answer to you is unacceptable and you should not accept it. My view is that if you applied for the renewal of your license prior to the end date and the Police have not got the ability to process the application prior to the end date, so then you should be given an extension.

I now think the question needs be asked in Parliament as to why the delays and more importantly whether the number of applications not processed is decreasing or (rather as I suspect) increasing? @mcdee, care to pass this to your colleague Nicole? (You need not answer, your action will be known in the fullness of time)

Just sent off the official complaint form, thanks @mikee

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

@zimmer - the old ‘be careful of what you wish for’ syndrome.!

‘The licensing process is taking too long - we need more people doing the vetting’

Sooo uniform cops get drafted in to do the vetting and ‘oh no we don’t want THAT!’

(Not getting at YOU simmer!)

I'm a long ways off from renewal thank goodness (unless the goal posts get moved...) and hopefully by then they will have sorted their shambles.
If I was in the process of renewal l'm still can't get my mind around how I would feel about uniforms up my drive.
All I believe though is we cannot win either way. We don't wish to have our licences expire, with what that entails, so we wish for a speed up of clearing the backlog hence the uniforms on our property.

Bottom line, we never caused the situation, but that's not much comfort for those affected.

Originally Posted by Scouser

Just sent it off......fingers crossed

They have it....not expecting much....

This message is to acknowledge receipt of your Expression of Dissatisfaction.
Thank you for taking the time to tell us why our service failed to meet your expectations. We will pass your comments onto the appropriate person who may contact you. The information you provided will be assessed and steps taken to address your feedback.
Kind regards,
New Zealand Police

I'm 5 months into the renewal process and have not yet been interviewed or vetted - numerous enquiries with arms office give no indication of timing, only that it will be some month's away. My licence has since expired, I've had to relocate my firearms, can no longer hunt my kids and have had to cancel numerous trips. Will likely miss my second roar in a row and lose a sizable deposit with a helicopter operator. For what it's worth, I've taken matters up with my local MP, police complaints and also advocacy groups I'm a member of/contribute to (NZDA/COLFO). Had I known about the extent of delays, I might have applied earlier but from the horror stories I'm hearing (up to a year in some cases), I'm not sure it would have made any difference. The delays are one thing, but NZ Police's petulant position on extensions/holding over is ridiculous and has put us in a really shitty position.

Originally Posted by small_caliber

Aren't government agencies supposed to supply a timely service? isn't there a govt agency that citizens can raise the issue with when the govt agency doesn't supply a timely service.

And I don't mean the govt agency that isn't providing the timely service, I mean a govt agency that has oversight of all govt agencies.

Especially when you have paid....in advance for the service too!

This is usually the Ombudsman, but maybe the IPCA is more appropriate for the Police.

Originally Posted by small_caliber

Would it not be better for all those waiting for their license renewal to complain to an independent authority, as the police have failed to deliver a suitable standard of service.

Any lawyers on here? legality of the disputes tribunal, ie payment for a service not rendered in a timely manner

https://www.consumerprotection.govt....-sell-services

Originally Posted by striker

Any lawyers on here? legality of the disputes tribunal, ie payment for a service not rendered in a timely manner

https://www.consumerprotection.govt....-sell-services

Striker that is a brilliant suggestion. The weight of work it work create would have to get their attention.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

I have been advised to apply for my licence renewal at least 6 months prior to expiry. If my licence expires before renewal then I'll have to store my firearms in someone else's security until renewed. No good whining about it. It is what it is, for now at least. More funding for the police from our benevolent government required. Can't see that happening with our huge national debt.

Not having a dig mate but more funding??, what about using what they get for its given purpose instead of diverting it for other use.

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