Thread: Firearm licencing

Originally Posted by Rushy

Scouser the Police answer to you is unacceptable and you should not accept it. My view is that if you applied for the renewal of your license prior to the end date and the Police have not got the ability to process the application prior to the end date, so then you should be given an extension.

I now think the question needs be asked in Parliament as to why the delays and more importantly whether the number of applications not processed is decreasing or (rather as I suspect) increasing? @mcdee, care to pass this to your colleague Nicole? (You need not answer, your action will be known in the fullness of time)

Just sent off the official complaint form, thanks @mikee

The police are dead set useless and need the whole portfolio taking off them.

This is true. But the government need to be pushed that we are aware of LFA renewal inaction, that it is unacceptable and what are they are going to do about it.

Apparently the police will be using uniformed officers (and marked vehicles) to conduct vetting interviews and security checks to help clear the backlog.

Originally Posted by NZShoota

Apparently the police will be using uniformed officers (and marked vehicles) to conduct vetting interviews and security checks to help clear the backlog.

Which in Canterbury means armed police. They are routinely armed after some gang stuff in Kaiapoi. Haven't heard of any change to that. Praise the Lord mines not due till 2027.

Originally Posted by NZShoota

Apparently the police will be using uniformed officers (and marked vehicles) to conduct vetting interviews and security checks to help clear the backlog.

Jesus wept. Priorities??

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Great, a police car up your drive with a policeman in uniform! Just when you didn't want your neighbours to know you have firearms for security reasons. Makes you wonder about how much they really care

Originally Posted by Maca49

Great, a police car up your drive with a policeman in uniform! Just when you didn't want your neighbours to know you have firearms for security reasons. Makes you wonder about how much they really care

A bit of a quantum leap: cops up driveway = property owner has guns?

Sheesh...

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

A bit of a quantum leap: cops up driveway = property owner has guns?

Sheesh...

My neighbor's curtains will be twitching expecting (hopin) to see if I be taken away in handcuffs. There goes the reputation south even more.

Originally Posted by Doghead

My neighbor's curtains will be twitching expecting (hopin) to see if I be taken away in handcuffs. There goes the reputation south even more.

Surely they may not jump to the hasty conclusion that you are an evil firearms owner.
They could even suspect you of other lesser crimes eg drug dealing, burglery and so on.

Saw a copy of the official letter the other day from Mike McIIraith advising the use of uniforms to supplement their civilians for vetting.

@zimmer - the old ‘be careful of what you wish for’ syndrome.!

‘The licensing process is taking too long - we need more people doing the vetting’

Sooo uniform cops get drafted in to do the vetting and ‘oh no we don’t want THAT!’

(Not getting at YOU simmer!)

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

@zimmer - the old ‘be careful of what you wish for’ syndrome.!

‘The licensing process is taking too long - we need more people doing the vetting’

Sooo uniform cops get drafted in to do the vetting and ‘oh no we don’t want THAT!’

(Not getting at YOU simmer!)

I'm a long ways off from renewal thank goodness (unless the goal posts get moved...) and hopefully by then they will have sorted their shambles.
If I was in the process of renewal l'm still can't get my mind around how I would feel about uniforms up my drive.
All I believe though is we cannot win either way. We don't wish to have our licences expire, with what that entails, so we wish for a speed up of clearing the backlog hence the uniforms on our property.

Bottom line, we never caused the situation, but that's not much comfort for those affected.

I'm 5 months into the renewal process and have not yet been interviewed or vetted - numerous enquiries with arms office give no indication of timing, only that it will be some month's away. My licence has since expired, I've had to relocate my firearms, can no longer hunt my kids and have had to cancel numerous trips. Will likely miss my second roar in a row and lose a sizable deposit with a helicopter operator. For what it's worth, I've taken matters up with my local MP, police complaints and also advocacy groups I'm a member of/contribute to (NZDA/COLFO). Had I known about the extent of delays, I might have applied earlier but from the horror stories I'm hearing (up to a year in some cases), I'm not sure it would have made any difference. The delays are one thing, but NZ Police's petulant position on extensions/holding over is ridiculous and has put us in a really shitty position.

I recently went through quite extensive medical etc compliance pprocedures for renewing my driving licences at 75. It took only 1 week for Land Transport to complete and post my replacent licence. Something is very disfunctuonal about the police procedures and service deliveries.

Originally Posted by Woody

I recently went through quite extensive medical etc compliance pprocedures for renewing my driving licences at 75. It took only 1 week for Land Transport to complete and post my replacent licence. Something is very disfunctuonal about the police procedures and service deliveries.

Yeah well it's because they don't WANT to issue licenses where as LT are ambivalent and will issue if you meet the legislated criteria