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    In case you missed it, the Royal Commission have slapped a suppression order on some of those people included in evidence.

    This included the Waikato father and son who acts as references on tarrants FAL application, the son who he met online, neither of whom met the referee requirements.

    So in making the suppression order the RC has effectively confirmed the rumours that the police screwed up big time in processing his FAL application:

    Stuff has previously reported that it appeared police failed to properly vet the terrorist when granting him a firearms licence. Sources, who required anonymity to speak, said police relied on character references, a father and son, who met the terrorist through an Internet chatroom.

    The commissioners said they were concerned for the wellbeing of both the Waikato father and son and the police staff, noting all had been “subject of considerable media speculation”.

    “Publication of their names is not necessary for the public to understand what happened."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cambo View Post
    Police are now also using uniformed officers to do vetting as they can't catch up with the backlog of renewals let alone new applications.
    Vettors also been instructed to collect serial numbers
    they didnt want mine didnt even want me to open the safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouser View Post
    Dropped my FAL renewal form in today, 3 pieces of ID required (?).....lets see how long it takes????

    called the local cop shop to see what time they close (4pm WTF?), the LADY ON THE LINE ASKED FOR MY MY FULL NAME & DATE OF BIRTH?????.....WTF is going on, i only wanted to know when it closed?????
    Jesus, which local was this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cambo View Post
    Here's the new FAL application and renewal forms.....All 35 of them....

    https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...ation-form.pdf
    Noticed the medical doctor part does not need to be completed if you submit your application prior to 23rd December.

    I just downloaded the renewal application form 2 weekss ago, it’s the old 2 pager, is this 35 pager hiding somewhere on Police website just for shits and giggles ?
    Grouchy Smurf had it right all along...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    Noticed the medical doctor part does not need to be completed if you submit your application prior to 23rd December.

    I just downloaded the renewal application form 2 weekss ago, it’s the old 2 pager, is this 35 pager hiding somewhere on Police website just for shits and giggles ?
    No its the only application form that is available now. They will not accept the old 1 page form anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    Jesus, which local was this ?
    Otahuhu, south Auckland.....I was received very respectively, no problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftx325 View Post
    It needs to be removed from police control and should all be done to the letter of the law ... Not the police version of what they try and pass off as law or there own wishlist.
    So long its not an outfit like the AA for car licence, go out of the way to fail people many times over to clip the ticket again charging resitting fees to maximise profit. The vetting people I have had for renewals kind of chat you thru the process, most likely to get "feel" for judgement of your character, not just the correct answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cambo View Post
    No its the only application form that is available now. They will not accept the old 1 page form anymore
    OMG, go back to the website today and it’s all changed.. at least you can do everything electronically without having to go into a station.
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    10 months and waiting

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    You have a good case to complain if your licence lapses due to their processing times... gosh who else waits this long for their day in errr court...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsp follower View Post
    10 months and waiting
    I laid a complaint on their online form and that got some action - given that part of the metric that they publicly point to when they tell their lies about how happy we all are with their crap administration of the FAL system is how many complaints they receive, just think of laying a complaint as having an extra vote

    https://complaints.ipca.govt.nz/195
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    Filling in the form now as mine expires just before the Roar and want to ensure I get the new one in time... might be wishful thinking...
    Doctors part says you must provide the exact GP you see - if you don't provide acceptable details it may not be accepted. I hardly ever see the Dr and if I need to I just see whoever has an appointment open... apparently practice name is not acceptable. Rung the doctors practice - they also said they don't have an email address (guess they just don't give one out).
    Hope this doesnt see me kicked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsol View Post
    Filling in the form now ..................Doctors part says you must provide the exact GP you see - if you don't provide acceptable details it may not be accepted. .................... Rung the doctors practice - they also said they don't have an email address (guess they just don't give one out).
    Hope this doesnt see me kicked back.
    @Shadowsol I suspect that Plod wants to be able to force your Doctor into releasing information to him and doesn't have the power to demand it from a Medical Centre / practice.

    SO, I suggest you provide the name of the last Doctor you saw at the centre/practice . If you can't remember which one it was, visit the practice / centre with evidence of who you are ( The driver's Licence / FAL shoul do that) and ask for them who you saw at the time of your last visit.
    Your Patient History record" will show this and you are entitled to have full access to that record....not that you need it for this..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsol View Post
    Filling in the form now as mine expires just before the Roar and want to ensure I get the new one in time... might be wishful thinking...
    Doctors part says you must provide the exact GP you see - if you don't provide acceptable details it may not be accepted. I hardly ever see the Dr and if I need to I just see whoever has an appointment open... apparently practice name is not acceptable. Rung the doctors practice - they also said they don't have an email address (guess they just don't give one out).
    Hope this doesnt see me kicked back.
    If you submit it before 23rd Dec, you don’t have to list it. Act comes into place on the 24th.

    https://rnzcgp.org.nz/RNZCGP/I_m_a_M...ow_about_.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Survy View Post
    If you submit it before 23rd Dec, you don’t have to list it. Act comes into place on the 24th.

    https://rnzcgp.org.nz/RNZCGP/I_m_a_M...ow_about_.aspx

    Yeah, let's ignore it and claim that Constable Plod doesn't have the "power" to ask for it.

    Then, when Plod sit's on it until the 24 th, he will reject it because of missing information..........and the applicant can complete another application and go to the back of the queue.

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