Thread: Firearm licencing

Originally Posted by Got-ya

Ok question. Assuming you have a current FAL I always thought and had been told you had 7 days to present your licence at the local cop shop if you did not have it on you at the time. As this changed?

Not correct. Forget the reference , but you MUST have your FAL on you, when shooting or in possession of a firearm. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe one thing less to cram in my wallet.

26. Production of firearms licence
(1)
Every holder of a firearms licence—
(a)
shall produce the licence for inspection whenever required to do so by any member of the Police:
(b)
shall maintain the licence in such a condition that it may be produced in an undefaced and legible condition.
(2)
The holder of a firearms licence issued pursuant to this Act shall be deemed to have complied with subsection (1)(a) if, within 7 days after having been so required to produce his licence or permit, he produces it at a place specified by the member of the Police.

Don’t have to have it on you at all times, just be able to turn up to the cop shop with it within 7 days, if asked. Of course, these days they can look it up on their phone in 30 seconds most likely.

8 months.... 8 bloody months since I put my renewal through, 7 months since they got back to my referees and 1 month and 10 days since my referees and I had our interviews.
3 months since my license expired, meaning I can't go and enjoy my guns around the farm like I usually do.

What a joke. Now it comes out that they spent $6m on taking 1000 firearms off legitimate owners. (that's 6k per firearm for those struggling with math)
Imagine if they'd put that money and effort towards catching up on licensing?

Right, done ranting, where do I make a complaint?

Originally Posted by Skirch

8 months.... 8 bloody months since I put my renewal through, 7 months since they got back to my referees and 1 month and 10 days since my referees and I had our interviews.
3 months since my license expired, meaning I can't go and enjoy my guns around the farm like I usually do.

What a joke. Now it comes out that they spent $6m on taking 1000 firearms off legitimate owners. (that's 6k per firearm for those struggling with math)
Imagine if they'd put that money and effort towards catching up on licensing?

Right, done ranting, where do I make a complaint?

Try your MP if not with the current lot. Don't think FA owners are on their priority list unless it's an ACT seat.

Originally Posted by small_caliber

These must be something new, Load is self explanatory and so is unload, "action" to me when talking about a firearm is the part of a rifle that the barrel, scope and stock are attached to and the only instant thing I can think of when mentioned in relation to a firearm is "instant gun blue" or instant coffee.

To me, for simplicity a firearm is either loaded or unloaded so what are they now teaching new applicants?

It's the military based weapon readiness states.
Load = magazine in
Action = cycle working parts to chamber s round and apply safety
Instant = move safety from safe to fire.

When it comes to renewals, does the AO give you a call beforehand to organize a date they can come and see you/inspect your safe...or do they just rock up whenever?

I've still got 2 years left on mine, but considering starting the application process now.

Originally Posted by Frodo

If you got your first license back when they lasted 10 years, will a renewed license still be good for 10 years, or are they all 5 year licenses now??

My 79yr-old Uncle got his FAL renewed last year, they would only do it for 5yrs. They werent keen to renew it, and didnt appreciate being told that he was sharper than them, by a referee, when asked if they thought he was 'doo-lally' in any way.

25Duration of firearms licence
(1) A firearms licence comes into force on the date specified in the licence and, unless revoked or surrendered earlier,—
(a) expires 5 years from that date in the case of—
(i) a licence issued to a person who has never previously held a firearms licence; or
(ii) a licence issued to a person whose previous licence was revoked or surrendered; or
(iii) a licence issued to a person who allowed their previous licence to expire without applying for a new licence before the expiry date:
(b) expires 10 years from that date in any other case.

I don't want anything to do with politicians. They're the cause of this mess.

Originally Posted by rewa

My 79yr-old Uncle got his FAL renewed last year, they would only do it for 5yrs. They werent keen to renew it, and didnt appreciate being told that he was sharper than them, by a referee, when asked if they thought he was 'doo-lally' in any way.

Shooting is one of the few activities that can remain relevant for an entire lifetime. The prospect of being denied an FAL due to old age is pretty shit...especially if you're still mentally sound. 79's not all that old, either. Hope he can get it renewed once again in 5 years from now...

I'm glad civilian AOs have a different way of doing things. No need for anymore 'gun line demon' NCOs in my life going fwd!

The problem with ROT learning is that its automatic and not real thinking. I can recall hearing a mate mumbling "catch fire c_ BOOOM!!!" as he calmly UD'd into the dirt next to somebody's foot....
He'd not taken the mag off before letting the working parts go fwd. Get that in the wrong order and you're in shite

Yip they call they give you a questionnaire and interview again then check safe
.mine took no more than 8 weeks from application to new card arriving

Recently got my licence renewed. it took 4 months before the AO came to interview me, by which time my licence had expired by a couple of days. when he called to book my interview i brought it to his attention that my licence would be expired by the time he turned up. He then told me that if there were any firearms in my safe when he turned up he would have to confiscate them... so they had to go into hiding.
moral of the story is... don't be like me and get in early for your FAL renewal.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

The date on the new licence is a sore point. It is dated the day the old one expires. Often the new licence is issued months after the old one expires, so you pay for a number of months that they don't class you as licenced.

And during which period you are told you are NOT allowed to have guns in your possession according to plod...................and yet if the licence period is back dated then you must have been licenced after all!! WTF

So I applied for my gun license December 2020 and recently got a letter saying I can now attend a Firearms Safety course IF I have a vaccine pass.
As I am unvaccinated (don't judge me) I cannot attend and I suppose that's the end of it as I have not been given any further information.

Is there anyone else here who has the same issue? and how does this effect renewal of gun licenses?