Thread: Firearms officer inspection after change of address

Originally Posted by Robojaz

I have had arms officers want to see inside my safe and record details of firearms.

A bit late to this question, but I would ask the question of the Arms Officer where do they plan to store that information securely. It's a simple question but a big headache for any government agency, as most are now acutely aware of their obligations with regards to personal information (this would fall under personal information). IT people do not want information they do not know about on their systems, because in the event of a data breach this is the sort of stuff that gets them in trouble.

When I had my change of address inspection I had two police women come and check my set up, one of them demanded I take all my guns out so they could record serial numbers I refused and told them that they had no legal right to request that. Things got quite heated and one of them started to draw her taser, I suggested we go upstairs and I would ring my lawyer at that they both said everything was fine and they left. I now have no respect for the police.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

A bit late to this question, but I would ask the question of the Arms Officer where do they plan to store that information securely. It's a simple question but a big headache for any government agency, as most are now acutely aware of their obligations with regards to personal information (this would fall under personal information). IT people do not want information they do not know about on their systems, because in the event of a data breach this is the sort of stuff that gets them in trouble.

I've thought about doing an oia request asking what classification the information will be in accordance with the NZISM.

I already know the answer but it will make someone shit their pants when they start to realize what they have to do.

Young work mate was interviewed for his FAL today and the lady told him he can have guns in the safe with bolts in the separate locked compartment at the top that has different key but ammo has to be in another locked box totally separate to the gun safe.

Just re read the regulations and it doesn't say that so I'm thinking she got it wrong what do you all think?

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/...html#LMS440372

24BGeneral conditions of firearms licence
(1)
Every firearms licence is subject to the conditions that the holder of a firearms licence must,—
(a)
when using a firearm, act in a way that does not pose a risk to themselves or others; and
(b)
produce any firearm that the licence holder is carrying to a member of the Police on demand; and
(c)
permit a member of the Police to inspect all firearms in the licence holder’s possession, the place or places where the firearms are or will be kept, and the place or places where the ammunition is or will be kept, and, for those purposes, to enter at all reasonable times upon the premises where that place or those places are situated; and
(d)
permit a member of the Police to inspect the security arrangements in any vehicle used by the holder to transport the licence holder’s firearms; and
(e)
inform a member of the Police if, after the issue of the licence, any of the circumstances described in section 24A(1) apply to the licence holder; and
(f)
inform a member of the Police if their health practitioner changes, and provide updated details of the name and contact details of their health practitioner.
(2)
Subsection (1)(f) does not apply to a holder of a firearms licence who is a visitor.
(3)
It is the duty of every member of the Police exercising any power conferred by subsection (1)(c) or (d)—
(a)
to give at least 7 days’ notice of the proposed inspection under subsection (1)(c) or (d); and
(b)
to identify themselves to the holder of the firearms licence; and
(c)
to tell the holder of the firearms licence that the power is being exercised under subsection (1)(c) or (d), as the case may be; and
(d)
if they are not in uniform, to produce on initial entry, and, if requested, at any subsequent time, evidence that they are a member of the Police.


sorry guys they are thinking of everything with the new laws

Originally Posted by WireWorking

When I had my change of address inspection I had two police women come and check my set up, one of them demanded I take all my guns out so they could record serial numbers I refused and told them that they had no legal right to request that. Things got quite heated and one of them started to draw her taser, I suggested we go upstairs and I would ring my lawyer at that they both said everything was fine and they left. I now have no respect for the police.

Make an official complaint. Cc your mp into it as well.
You will get nowhere, but they will have a headache. Fuckers.

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

Young work mate was interviewed for his FAL today and the lady told him he can have guns in the safe with bolts in the separate locked compartment at the top that has different key but ammo has to be in another locked box totally separate to the gun safe.

Just re read the regulations and it doesn't say that so I'm thinking she got it wrong what do you all think?

Take zero advice from police about law. Especially firearms law.
They are not lawyers.

The only advice I will take seriously is from COLFO or SSANZ or a lawyer who specialises in firearms law.
Even this forum, while some of us seem to have it understood pretty well, there is a lot if incorrect advice here regarding firearms law.

I renewed mine this time last year and he just wanted to site safe and tugged on it to make sure it was bolts down

Originally Posted by imaca

They should not be asking for S/Ns "for your safety" or any other reasons, we don't have a register yet. Mine wasn't interested in S/Ns but asked me how many I had IN FRONT OF MY WIFE!

My wall of smoke and mirrors answer to that horrible question was: "darling its really not about the numbers, its about having the right tools for the right job!"

Originally Posted by T.FOYE

My wall of smoke and mirrors answer to that horrible question was: "darling its really not about the numbers, its about having the right tools for the right job!"

hell, my wife currently has more than me!
ok, only be one.....this may change soon