Thread: Firearms Storage Inspection ....

Im due for one in about 90secs.heres to hoping.

Originally Posted by kotuku

Im due for one in about 90secs.heres to hoping.

Well?? Are you still with us??

Didn't used to be 50 yds from the rd you can discharge a firearm?

yes.all i can say is what a bloody pleasure the vetter was to deal with.she was more than happy with my setup ,remembered me and my papers(individual a 4sheet description of each weapon)which she actually still has in my file.burglars intending or otherwise please note.also very knowledgable about current issues.overall unlike some a great experience for me.

quick question so i dont have much room in the house can i put my safe in my garage that is not lockable?

Originally Posted by 1justin

quick question so i dont have much room in the house can i put my safe in my garage that is not lockable?

Not lockable like a carport?
At risk of needing more details I'd imagine that most vetters would say no to that one but others here may have had a pass on that one

Originally Posted by 1justin

quick question so i dont have much room in the house can i put my safe in my garage that is not lockable?

Can you? Yes.
Should you? Probably not.


Can you put a padlock hasp on the garage door - then it is lockable.
If it is open like a carport then I would suggest not.
Security is important. I wouldn't want my rifles left in a safe in an unlocked building.

That's a negative. MAKE it lockable, and if you cannot then it's quite simply not suitable.

just a 40 year old garage so locks are poked could put bolts and padlocks on the old garage doors and the side door so that will sort it out, i live in the country so really if someones planing on getting in to the garage the padlocks only guna add 30 secs to the time it takes them, bolts are in another safe in another place, and ammo is locked in another place as well

ya know im more looking from the legal standpoint because from common sense standpoint the safe and the dayna bolts and the blanket over it and not telling people about it are the deterrent from the opportunist the lock on the door is just guna cost the professional 30 secs when they can probably be out there all day without a worry anyway

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Can you? Yes.
Should you? Probably not.


Can you put a padlock hasp on the garage door - then it is lockable.
If it is open like a carport then I would suggest not.
Security is important. I wouldn't want my rifles left in a safe in an unlocked building.

Agree 100%.
Here's how I see the rules of the game. It is not about bluffing your way past the inspecting person, or just sneaking in with the legal requirements, It's about being happy with yourself that you have taken all practical steps to protect your investment, and have taken a responsible approach to preventing your weapons getting into the hands of lowlife who may potetially then kill with said weapon.
Yes, I am also a realist and know my security can (hopefully not will) be breached by a determined professional. I am confident it will stand up to the average goon/opportunist.

Originally Posted by 1justin

just a 40 year old garage so locks are poked could put bolts and padlocks on the old garage doors and the side door so that will sort it out, i live in the country so really if someones planing on getting in to the garage the padlocks only guna add 30 secs to the time it takes them, bolts are in another safe in another place, and ammo is locked in another place as well

ya know im more looking from the legal standpoint because from common sense standpoint the safe and the dayna bolts and the blanket over it and not telling people about it are the deterrent from the opportunist the lock on the door is just guna cost the professional 30 secs when they can probably be out there all day without a worry anyway

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

I understand what you're saying, but what you're risking is that someone who may just be poking around gets into your garage and finds the safe, who can then come back more prepared and you will never know they were there in the first place.

Originally Posted by 1justin

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

times are different now and so are the rules... do you leave your house unlocked when you go out now?

here in Auckland the people I know with gun safes, have had to put a lock on the door on the cupboard/room and windows they are in, weather they use them or not (this was when getting E endorsement)

Originally Posted by 1justin

just a 40 year old garage so locks are poked could put bolts and padlocks on the old garage doors and the side door so that will sort it out, i live in the country so really if someones planing on getting in to the garage the padlocks only guna add 30 secs to the time it takes them, bolts are in another safe in another place, and ammo is locked in another place as well

ya know im more looking from the legal standpoint because from common sense standpoint the safe and the dayna bolts and the blanket over it and not telling people about it are the deterrent from the opportunist the lock on the door is just guna cost the professional 30 secs when they can probably be out there all day without a worry anyway

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

Then from a legal standpoint if you fit the hasp and staple and minimum requirement to class the garage as "lockable" you should be legally fine

Not what I would do but it's your stuff, not mine

Originally Posted by Glycerine

times are different now and so are the rules... do you leave your house unlocked when you go out now?

here in Auckland the people I know with gun safes, have had to put a lock on the door on the cupboard/room and windows they are in, weather they use them or not (this was when getting E endorsement)

Times sure are different now . I live rural. Saw our neighbour get robbed a couple of years ago - their house is about 180 meters from us.

Didn’t immediately gel what was happening – saw car drive up the 150 meter drive and straight under their house (open garage under house). Around a minute later they started to depart.
I said to the wife “holy shit, I think the neighbours have just been robbed”. It all happened that quick. Car headed towards town.

Fortunately we were able to raise the neighbour on the other side and they noted the car's rego as it went past and rung the cops. Amazingly the cops picked them up about 30k away – they were known to the cops. And the car was theirs, not stolen, so they were traceable.

They had the neighbour’s chainsaw and some workshop tools in the boot. As I said, around a minute and gone.

Originally Posted by Mauser308

As an aside, seeing as this antiquated thread has been dug up and flogged into life again...

The vetting process is absolutely flawed, so says my BSW-qualified wife who is absolutely fricking disgusted by the process. (BSW is Bachelor of Social Work - her case with Hons - she works with all sectors of society but one sector is family violence). Relevance here, is most of the AO's and vetting staff would be lucky to have more than minimal training in identifying domestic violence cases. As a trained professional, she finds it absolutely abhorent that every time I have been vetted she has had to answer the vetting person's questions with me in the room, despite me offering to leave (I was actually told to stay). A person living with fear will not answer a vetting question truthfully in this instance.

So, A-cat or whatever stupid letter-cat the applicant is going for - I contest it's not worth the paper it's written on. That makes the whole argument for seperate license classes completely void regardless of politicians good intent.

When I was vetted I had to leave while my partner was interviewed.