Thread: Firearms Storage Inspection ....

quick question so i dont have much room in the house can i put my safe in my garage that is not lockable?

Originally Posted by 1justin

quick question so i dont have much room in the house can i put my safe in my garage that is not lockable?

Not lockable like a carport?
At risk of needing more details I'd imagine that most vetters would say no to that one but others here may have had a pass on that one

Originally Posted by 1justin

quick question so i dont have much room in the house can i put my safe in my garage that is not lockable?

Can you? Yes.
Should you? Probably not.


Can you put a padlock hasp on the garage door - then it is lockable.
If it is open like a carport then I would suggest not.
Security is important. I wouldn't want my rifles left in a safe in an unlocked building.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Can you? Yes.
Should you? Probably not.


Can you put a padlock hasp on the garage door - then it is lockable.
If it is open like a carport then I would suggest not.
Security is important. I wouldn't want my rifles left in a safe in an unlocked building.

Agree 100%.
Here's how I see the rules of the game. It is not about bluffing your way past the inspecting person, or just sneaking in with the legal requirements, It's about being happy with yourself that you have taken all practical steps to protect your investment, and have taken a responsible approach to preventing your weapons getting into the hands of lowlife who may potetially then kill with said weapon.
Yes, I am also a realist and know my security can (hopefully not will) be breached by a determined professional. I am confident it will stand up to the average goon/opportunist.

That's a negative. MAKE it lockable, and if you cannot then it's quite simply not suitable.

just a 40 year old garage so locks are poked could put bolts and padlocks on the old garage doors and the side door so that will sort it out, i live in the country so really if someones planing on getting in to the garage the padlocks only guna add 30 secs to the time it takes them, bolts are in another safe in another place, and ammo is locked in another place as well

ya know im more looking from the legal standpoint because from common sense standpoint the safe and the dayna bolts and the blanket over it and not telling people about it are the deterrent from the opportunist the lock on the door is just guna cost the professional 30 secs when they can probably be out there all day without a worry anyway

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

Originally Posted by 1justin

just a 40 year old garage so locks are poked could put bolts and padlocks on the old garage doors and the side door so that will sort it out, i live in the country so really if someones planing on getting in to the garage the padlocks only guna add 30 secs to the time it takes them, bolts are in another safe in another place, and ammo is locked in another place as well

ya know im more looking from the legal standpoint because from common sense standpoint the safe and the dayna bolts and the blanket over it and not telling people about it are the deterrent from the opportunist the lock on the door is just guna cost the professional 30 secs when they can probably be out there all day without a worry anyway

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

I understand what you're saying, but what you're risking is that someone who may just be poking around gets into your garage and finds the safe, who can then come back more prepared and you will never know they were there in the first place.

Originally Posted by 1justin

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

times are different now and so are the rules... do you leave your house unlocked when you go out now?

here in Auckland the people I know with gun safes, have had to put a lock on the door on the cupboard/room and windows they are in, weather they use them or not (this was when getting E endorsement)

Originally Posted by Glycerine

times are different now and so are the rules... do you leave your house unlocked when you go out now?

here in Auckland the people I know with gun safes, have had to put a lock on the door on the cupboard/room and windows they are in, weather they use them or not (this was when getting E endorsement)

Times sure are different now . I live rural. Saw our neighbour get robbed a couple of years ago - their house is about 180 meters from us.

Didn’t immediately gel what was happening – saw car drive up the 150 meter drive and straight under their house (open garage under house). Around a minute later they started to depart.
I said to the wife “holy shit, I think the neighbours have just been robbed”. It all happened that quick. Car headed towards town.

Fortunately we were able to raise the neighbour on the other side and they noted the car's rego as it went past and rung the cops. Amazingly the cops picked them up about 30k away – they were known to the cops. And the car was theirs, not stolen, so they were traceable.

They had the neighbour’s chainsaw and some workshop tools in the boot. As I said, around a minute and gone.

Originally Posted by 1justin

just a 40 year old garage so locks are poked could put bolts and padlocks on the old garage doors and the side door so that will sort it out, i live in the country so really if someones planing on getting in to the garage the padlocks only guna add 30 secs to the time it takes them, bolts are in another safe in another place, and ammo is locked in another place as well

ya know im more looking from the legal standpoint because from common sense standpoint the safe and the dayna bolts and the blanket over it and not telling people about it are the deterrent from the opportunist the lock on the door is just guna cost the professional 30 secs when they can probably be out there all day without a worry anyway

and when i was growing up in the country i didnt know anyone that did lock there house when they went out, so is anyone that leaves there house without locking it who has a safe inside breaking the rules than aswell?

Then from a legal standpoint if you fit the hasp and staple and minimum requirement to class the garage as "lockable" you should be legally fine

Not what I would do but it's your stuff, not mine

The vetting guide states that the spouse, partner, NOK has to be interviewed separately. There is some truth in most of what Jexla says.

My missus was interviewed in private each time, I thought that was normal. Vetting guy said afterwards that she told him she was initially very scared and wary of firearms in general, and as a result of me patiently explaining it all over time she now didn't feel that way at all, and was quite interested in getting a FAL herself (she hasn't quite done that yet, but it's on her list). Vetting guy thought it was great.

my last vetting -the vettor told wife she could refuse to answer a question -didnt matter ,but me -refusal seen as guilt -game set &match for me.
we were interviewed seperately her for 30mins me for 90+
asked about my depression -Id got a med cert from GP-no worries ,so i told him to tell the boys in blue theyre welcome to view my entire medical file -ive got no secrets.but dont friggin blame me if ya find the reader snoring peacefully after the first page!
he laughed like hell!weve just spoken again recently as iwas referee for a good mate- no probs there either.
both my vettors have been fairly reasonable types ,able to use a modicum of discretion/commonsense and not prone to prostrating themselves a the bible of regulations at every query or question asked.