Thread: Free E's ..... we'll almost

Just dropped my papers in today, how long did the whole process take?

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Originally Posted by turner nz

Just dropped my papers in today, how long did the whole process take?

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Mine took a few months in total, as the AO forgot to sent the relevant paperwork away.
Got all sorted pretty quickly once he did though. May have been 3 weeks after the initial error/holdup.

Comes down to the workload of the vettor(s).
As you can imagine they have a rather increased workload so are under pressure to get through the applications.

The vettor that interviewed me and the Mrs finished up with us, as the last interview for the day, at 2200 and had been on the go since 0700 doing interviews.
There are 12 vettors in CHCH at the moment and they need more to cope with the applications.
Lots of FAL applicants are Asian and he said many can't speak any English making the process a lot longer/harder.

I put mine in 3 weeks ago, so far I've heard nothing

I used this process - quite quick too - took about 2 weeks with no hassles. I'm also submitting 3 x POL67X forms to register three of my rifles as E-cat.

Steve

Originally Posted by Tbirdsteve

I used this process - quite quick too - took about 2 weeks with no hassles. I'm also submitting 3 x POL67X forms to register three of my rifles as E-cat.

Steve

Hi Steve

When did you do yours for it to take just 2 weeks

In February this year via the Porirua office.

Steve

Question, if I'm still waiting for my e-endorsement to be processed after the 11 June, will that make me a 'criminal' since I wont still have my e-cat endorsement but still own mssa type firearm with its pistol grip.

No more than you are now-it's against the law now and the police are just using there discretion not to prosecute.
As they are the hold up you should be fine,but as I'm not a lawyer it could be worth emailing your arms officer to ask-mainly to have a record that you are doing everything in your power to comply

I'm off hunting on Sunday as well and looking at taking the AR for its first shot. (pistol grip and all)
Anyway will email the arms office but could be a little late now, but at least there will be an email sitting in his inbox.

Mine turned up in the mail yesterday
has (MSSA) in brackets does this just mean that i can only use those types of rifles??

Well that's what an E endorsement is for. It doesn't let you have or do anything else.


E: Also should probably blank out your deets man, FAL # DOB and full name probably aren't great to have floating around on the net

Originally Posted by burtonator

Mine turned up in the mail yesterday
has (MSSA) in brackets does this just mean that i can only use those types of rifles??

It's still a normal licence as well if that's what your asking,just with the added endorsement of being allowed to own and use mssa's

Originally Posted by res

It's still a normal licence as well if that's what your asking,just with the added endorsement of being allowed to own and use mssa's

Can just use the particular MSSA that the endorsement give syou 'permission' to possess and no other. A drafting error in the law provides no defence to the supply of an MSSA to any person who does not have an endorsement for that particualr and exact MSSA and a Permit to Procure specificaly that one.

A range officer is even technically unable to even touch any MSSA except the ones for which they have the specific endorsement and permit to procure.

There is much delight in official circles at this 'error' and no plans to repair the drafting error.

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Can just use the particular MSSA that the endorsement give syou 'permission' to possess and no other. A drafting error in the law provides no defence to the supply of an MSSA to any person who does not have an endorsement for that particualr and exact MSSA and a Permit to Procure specificaly that one.

A range officer is even technically unable to even touch any MSSA except the ones for which they have the specific endorsement and permit to procure.

There is much delight in official circles at this 'error' and no plans to repair the drafting error.

Which is why we should bulk apply for P2Ps to facilitate the handling of MSSAs between you and your endorsed mates at the range.
Ask the range officers to get endorsed and do the same thing.

See how Wellington like hundreds of P2Ps coming in each week to process.

That is the only way the drafting error will ever be fixed.

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Can just use the particular MSSA that the endorsement give syou 'permission' to possess and no other. A drafting error in the law provides no defence to the supply of an MSSA to any person who does not have an endorsement for that particualr and exact MSSA and a Permit to Procure specificaly that one.

A range officer is even technically unable to even touch any MSSA except the ones for which they have the specific endorsement and permit to procure.

There is much delight in official circles at this 'error' and no plans to repair the drafting error.

Speaking to an arms officer, he bought up this subject where, his words, there are a "bunch of "pedantic" people in your sport".

People have gone to see him about people using someone elses E cat gun, said arms officer didnt want to know. he said you are at a range, its controlled, have some bloody fun. The law is a nonsense.


I wholeheartedly agree with him