Thread: Free E's ..... we'll almost

Originally Posted by Kscott

The continuation of needing a certain type of firearm license to own a certain type of firearm has existed for some time. .

LEGAL



ILLEGAL



This is a grip, not a certain dangerous baby killing scary gun with a million round mag (which btw I don't have a problem with a limit of 7rnds)

Again the top gun can be stored in a plywood enclosure with a small lock yet the bottom one requires a thick gun safe bolted to no less then two surfaces a yearly inspection, all guns to be registered and extra vetting to own.

Its stupid.

It's all retarded

Originally Posted by mikee

I been a pistol shooter for 20 years, trust me "cool as shit" lasts about a week. occaisionally comes back when someone turns up at the range with a Desert Eagle in 50 cal, then buggers off again when they leave.
I am in the process of giving up my B. lost interest for now.

I first shot pistols in 2007, I'm not new to them exactly, I still
Think they're cool as shit. Obtaining and maintaining a B is much hassle and the restrictions on what you can use them for are fucking dumb

I dont have a problem with security requirements. But I would like to be able to hunt and plink with a pistol without having to join a pistol club.

Be sweet if your E allowed you to own pistols. Like in Canada, the "Restricted" PAL allows you to own shorter barreled semi autos and pistols. I think the process is similar to getting an E endorsement. However restricted is range use only, and you even need a permit to take them out of your house. If it came to that then yea keep the pistols. My hunting rifles are all E category now.

Originally Posted by Timmay

This is a grip, not a certain dangerous baby killing scary gun with a million round mag (which btw I don't have a problem with a limit of 7rnds)

Again the top gun can be stored in a plywood enclosure with a small lock yet the bottom one requires a thick gun safe bolted to no less then two surfaces a yearly inspection, all guns to be registered and extra vetting to own.

Its stupid.

Umm, having a pistol grip is NOT illegal. Just as having a pistol is not illegal. It's up to the owner to ensure they fulfill the requirements of the law as it stands at the time. Also the pistol grip isn't limited to just AR's, there are other firearms in the world

And the rules have changed in the past, and will change again in the future, you can bet on that.

I think Tim's point was that on a normal A-Cat license the following is permitted.

Anyway, as Gimp says we all agree the rules are stupid.

Originally Posted by Kscott

Umm, having a pistol grip is NOT illegal.

lol how could you miss my point? There are even pictures.

Hey if I have the e cat safe but am yet to acquire an Ar what's the go with getting in with the incoming e cat scheme? Anyone know?

Cheers Cam

Originally Posted by camo wsm

Hey if I have the e cat safe but am yet to acquire an Ar what's the go with getting in with the incoming e cat scheme? Anyone know?

Cheers Cam

Have a read of this thread Cam.....
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...rsement-11927/

Originally Posted by cambo

Have a read of this thread Cam.....
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...rsement-11927/

Thanks mate will do

Originally Posted by Timmay

lol how could you miss my point? There are even pictures.

Ever seen the movie Pulp Fiction ?

Have a cry about the rules changing as much as you like, after all, all the talk has been going on for a very long time, it's not exactly new news.

Heard in a conversation last weekend at the Riverhead range, Manukau AO pointed out the free E was for people who already had a pistol grip semi, not free for those who didn't have one but just wanted to get their E. A small but subtle difference.

Originally Posted by Kscott

Heard in a conversation last weekend at the Riverhead range, Manukau AO pointed out the free E was for people who already had a pistol grip semi, not free for those who didn't have one but just wanted to get their E. A small but subtle difference.

Our AO said the opposite to us at the deerstalkers meeting and went on to say a judge had ruled that you didn't even need the safe to get your e if you don't have a rifle that falls under the criteria.
You only need to have the safe when it comes time to permit to procure.

Hehe, usual confusion reigns !

Things appear to be running expeditiously up here in Auckland. Turned in my paperwork last week, today received word that my references had been contacted and that my security inspection will take place on Sunday.

My guy seems to be quite easy to deal with. He asked about my security arrangements and advised that my window will require window bolt(s) and that my office door would require a deadbolt fitted which is a little absurd as an even a cripple would be able to kick it off its hinges, let alone a determined criminal.

But... them's the rules we need to play by.