Thread: Free E's ..... we'll almost

what has everyone put for reasons why not a category?

Originally Posted by Beavis

I wonder if you can sign mates up for your guns. Would be handy. Probably not.

Can't see why not, civil unions and all that being legal now.

Ask your AO and see what they have to say about it.

Cheers
Pete

I put - target shooting, recreational shooting, competitive shooting, hunting, pest control, plus anything other shooting discipline that may interest me. Plus change in law had reclassified my rifle to a MSSA.
Vettor thought I did well and congratulated me on covering all bases

Originally Posted by cambo

I put - target shooting, recreational shooting, competitive shooting, hunting, pest control, plus anything other shooting discipline that may interest me. Plus change in law had reclassified my rifle to a MSSA.
Vettor thought I did well and congratulated me on covering all bases

As above but I also added "And any other lawful use".

Just in case I forgot something.

Cheers
Pete

So did I read that right is a 15 or 20 round .22 magazine currently (until law change) available and legal on an a cat?

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Originally Posted by savagehunter

So did I read that right is a 15 or 20 round .22 magazine currently (until law change) available and legal on an a cat?

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Savagehunter

This is the current description of an MSSA as stated in the Arms Code.

An MSSA is a self-loading rifle or shotgun with one or more
of the following features:
• Magazine that holds, or has appearance of holding, more
than 15 cartridges for .22 rimfire.

http://www.police.govt.nz/service/fi.../arms-code.pdf

i.e. put a 25 shot mag into your standard Ruger 10/22 and you may now be in possession of a MSSA.

Cheers
Pete

But if you put a 25rnd mag in a 96/22 (lever action) it is still an "Acat" and not classed as a MSSA.
Same as with the Mossberg MVP bolt action rifles that take AR mags. You can use a 30rnd mag if you desire and it is not classed as a MSSA.

So long as you dont own a semi that takes those mags, you'll be OK.

Originally Posted by cambo

But if you put a 25rnd mag in a 96/22 (lever action) it is still an "Acat" and not classed as a MSSA.
Same as with the Mossberg MVP bolt action rifles that take AR mags. You can use a 30rnd mag if you desire and it is not classed as a MSSA.

So long as you dont own a semi that takes those mags, you'll be OK.

Cambo

That's because the rifles you mention are NOT SELF LOADING.

Simple really.

Cheers
Pete

jesus how can people still not understand this stuff

Exactly!
I didn't say otherwise.
Simply stated the facts as it is.

The question was asked if a 25rnd mag was MSSA. They didn't say if it was for self loading rifle.

But thanks

Originally Posted by cambo

Exactly!
I didn't say otherwise.
Simply stated the facts as it is.

The question was asked if a 25rnd mag was MSSA. They didn't say if it was for self loading rifle.

But thanks

Cambo

My mistake, you are correct.

I re read the question and he is only concerned with the magazine, no mention of the type of rifle said magazine is for.

Cheers
Pete

All good

My new card turned up the other day.

How does 1 know of any conditions, if any, that they put on the use of the MSSA rifle?
I have had nothing to say there are any conditions of use. Or are the condtions what I put down on the application?
If so, happy times as I covered everything possible. lol

The "conditions" are police policy, not part of the arms act.

Originally Posted by savageshooter

The "conditions" are police policy, not part of the arms act.

section 33a actually

33AConditions of endorsement in respect of military style semi-automatic firearms
(1)It is a condition of every endorsement made under section 30B that the holder of the firearms licence observes, in respect of every military style semi-automatic firearm or part thereof in that holder's possession, such security precautions as are required by regulations made under this Act.
(2)Any member of the Police may, on the direction of the Commissioner, impose, as conditions of an endorsement made by that member of the Police under section 30B, such conditions with regard to the use or custody of a military style semi-automatic firearm (being conditions additional to that specified in subsection (1)) as that member of the Police thinks fit.