Thread: Geuss Who? Phillip Alpers Chimes In

Originally Posted by Sideshow

@kotuku would you please do us the honour of copying and pasting that Gary Mauser reply to gingas load of trip! We could all do with a good laugh

Mate id love too but its actually sitting at home in chch in one of my files,whereas i am here on the coast at present and will be till jan 2018.

I dont neccesarily think it would improve the disposition of the aforementioned either as It contains proper spelling grammar etc etc which is a distinct dislike of his given his current response.

We note on registration of firearms....since I live in the uk and have first hand experience!

All guns are registered. One a paper license its two pages long. One for firearms which are a privilege to own and one for shotguns which are a right to own! It's in law here? Don't ask but goggle
Now if you lose your license your home address is on it along with all your guns( who ever thought that up was genius ah)
You must carry these two bits of paper when ever you go out with your guns! Did I mention that it rains here
Now you cant go buying any old firearm untill you ask the police for said caliber. So you want a .270 ask police get ok takes around two months. Then want another .270 you have to prove that you need it they then might give it to you but chances are no since you have one already No sir!
You sell your .270 to get up graded .270 (is there such a thing) you have to go through the whole process again. Just because you have one on your ticket dose not mean that you can exchange it for another.
Shotguns are a little different you can buy and sell but must inform the police each time you do this transaction.
Has it stopped gun crime?
Short answer no!
Can the police keep up with registration?
No! Two to three months if you have a ticket longer if you don't.
Oh just for some icing on cake. Each police force has its own way of interpreting the law from the home office.
So here in the Thames valley the chief constable is a right f@¥{%%******+= and over the boarder in Wiltshire he's a gent
Any question do ask I'll try to answer them

Sorry about above post if you can't read my spell of swear words pm me and I'll get you the correct spelling straight away

The part about the police interpreting the law differently is similar to ours @Sideshow It's a pain in the arse!

I am genuinely interested to know, how are shotguns a right to own? Please elaborate.

In South Africa, every single licensed firearm has to be registered to their owner. Let's ask the people of South Africa how firearm registration has helped prevent or reduce firearm related crime this week.








*crickets*

@Sasquatch I can't find it at the moment but it's one of those old laws that they have here in the uk.

If you look at it from a purely law point of view I would say that it is the same in NZ.

You go to the police and apply for a firearms licence, this is your right. It is then up to the police to PROVE that you are fit and proper to have that licences. That's just how the law works. So long as you don't prove that your not fit and proper then it is your right to have a firearms license.

Sure you can bleat on about it being a privileged and the police can say it and write it as much as they want, but take it to court and prove that they are not supplying you with a firearms license (so long as your fit and proper) and the court then finds in your favour then it's your right.
No long a privilege. Anyway I think I might have just high jacked this thread. Sorry

Originally Posted by Nickoli

Even more enjoyable when it pisses off the Forum Fuckwit (read Troll)... @systolic

What makes you think I get pissed off?

Originally Posted by systolic

What makes you think I get pissed off?

The fact that you weren't breastfed as an infant and that you were just teased with the nipple?

Originally Posted by Ryan

The fact that you weren't breastfed as an infant and that you were just teased with the nipple?

Yawn.

Originally Posted by systolic

Yawn.

Now you know the feeling every time you post. How about you take:

Settings - My Account - Edit Ignore List - Add This Forum - Okay.

Originally Posted by rockland

It must be 20 years ago now but IIRC he turned up at an Auckland pistol club and fired 2 Accidental Discharges before they took the pistol off him.

After Aramoana he was the media's darling "Firearm expert Philip Alpers said..."

It was a good day when he left us and moved to Australia.

From memory this incident was reported on by SSANZ. He turned up to a small bore club trying to appear that he was a shooter and everybody's friend. He had two negligent discharges into the floor of the indoor range with a top of the line Anschutz and tried to blame the rifle. I do believe he also had some interaction with either the Police or the courts regarding him failing to notify police of his change of address pertaining to his firearms licence.

Regarding the registration thing, for shits and giggles, I recently purchased an MSSA, and did my bit, took it to the local to get endorsed to me, he grabbed the pink slip without looking at it or the rifle and was about to walk off when I asked him if he was going to bother inspecting the rifle and filling the form out for me. So we did that. And a few days later I get an email from the AO saying the rifle doesnt exist in the system. Further investigation revealed the bolt had been registered at some point, but not the rifle. Cluster fuck. We don't want this multiplied by a few hundred.

I guess my reaction is the immortal quote
"Words fail me"

You cannot work within the present legal protocols but you demand more, ive seen section 30 of the mental health act deployed for less!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Beavis

Regarding the registration thing, for shits and giggles, I recently purchased an MSSA, and did my bit, took it to the local to get endorsed to me, he grabbed the pink slip without looking at it or the rifle and was about to walk off when I asked him if he was going to bother inspecting the rifle and filling the form out for me. So we did that. And a few days later I get an email from the AO saying the rifle doesnt exist in the system. Further investigation revealed the bolt had been registered at some point, but not the rifle. Cluster fuck. We don't want this multiplied by a few hundred.

Each time the vetting officer comes to check my B cat safe and contents there is usually a mistake on my file last time a pistol was entered twice, I have not bought or sold a pistol in 4 years
so how does my file get changed, the worst one was one pistol I had sold was still on my file so they have lost one all together unless the new owner did their paperwork,
Just as well the vetting officer lives in the real world and believed me could have been in real trouble.

Originally Posted by shooternz

Each time the vetting officer comes to check my B cat safe and contents there is usually a mistake on my file last time a pistol was entered twice, I have not bought or sold a pistol in 4 years
so how does my file get changed, the worst one was one pistol I had sold was still on my file so they have lost one all together unless the new owner did their paperwork,
Just as well the vetting officer lives in the real world and believed me could have been in real trouble.

That's why I keep all my pinkys. Have heard similar stories so was ad I send to do so.

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