Thread: Gun shot fired in Gun City Car park

thank you for clearing the issue up.Iwill retract my comments re GC .like others i have nought but condemnation for the "nut behind the butt".hmmmm-what if a routine traffic stop had unearthed this wee treasure trove =id bet my bottom dollar all hell would have ensued.
to the passenger -Im pleased you escaped injury =to the fool -i sincerely hope the judge throws the whole bloody legal library at you cause youre a disgrace to the firearms owning fraternity-you cant even abide by 7 simple rules and put public lives in danger.wow this is like an atomic reactor for the ant gun brigade.-endless fuel for them.

To confirm, he may of had the gun in the back seat and tried to reach over for it, probably lucky he didnt blow his own head off or have passengers.
As for photos, lets see if this works as i have tried from my mobile and i couldnt.
I have no issue against firearms, just the reckless ones who seem to pass getting their FAL.

What was it - looks like several holes

He is liable for your damage - frankly its the least he could do is pay for it all

Originally Posted by faregame

What was it - looks like several holes

He is liable for your damage - frankly its the least he could do is pay for it all

Does look rather like a shotgun with buckshot...

It shouldn't be too hard to get the situation sorted out without going down the court rabbithole. What I think should be your course of action is:

1) go file a report with the police, find out who is in charge of the case and get it all put on the same case number as when the culprit handed himself in (you may have already done this part)
2) Give your insurance company the details of the officer who is dealing with the case and the case number
3) your insurance company should then just confirm it's all tickety boo and pay you out the full replacement value/repair your car, no excess etc as they will get that out of mr accidental discharge.

I'm no expert but from my own dealings with police when someone wrote off my car this is pretty much how it should go down. Sorry you have to go through this, hope it all pans out for you.

Originally Posted by Guypie

It shouldn't be too hard to get the situation sorted out without going down the court rabbithole. What I think should be your course of action is:

1) go file a report with the police, find out who is in charge of the case and get it all put on the same case number as when the culprit handed himself in (you may have already done this part)
2) Give your insurance company the details of the officer who is dealing with the case and the case number
3) your insurance company should then just confirm it's all tickety boo and pay you out the full replacement value/repair your car, no excess etc as they will get that out of mr accidental discharge.

I'm no expert but from my own dealings with police when someone wrote off my car this is pretty much how it should go down. Sorry you have to go through this, hope it all pans out for you.

You would think so right ?!
I think the lady we dealt with at the insurance company was just very ill informed. She added a hell of a lot of trouble to something that the company needs to deal with.
only time will tell i guess. Mean while we know less than mr DT and it technically has nothing to do with him and the police refuse to give any details to us. If this were any regular day and it have been a car vs car and the person run and hide they would be done for not reporting the accident and running from the scene of the crime (from my understanding)

Originally Posted by MSSPNZ

You would think so right ?! If this were any regular day and it have been a car vs car and the person run and hide they would be done for not reporting the accident and running from the scene of the crime (from my understanding)

Totally. You've every right to be severely fucked off imo

personally, throw the whole damn book at him !
no excuses, no "had a hard life BS"
if i had seen it i would have pulled the bastard out of his car and laid him out till the cops arrived

our good old injustice system working for the innocent once again

I'd reckon the shotgun issue is more a case of the guy getting complacent with his unloading procedures. Maybe the guy shot till he was too tired to check he was clear (lesson there). Maybe he's in too much of a habit and thought he was unloaded (also a lesson there). Either way that bloke should buy a lotto ticket because a car you can replace. What if that was a baby in a pram....

Originally Posted by Dead is better

I'd reckon the shotgun issue is more a case of the guy getting complacent with his unloading procedures. Maybe the guy shot till he was too tired to check he was clear (lesson there). Maybe he's in too much of a habit and thought he was unloaded (also a lesson there). Either way that bloke should buy a lotto ticket because a car you can replace. What if that was a baby in a pram....

sorry but COMPLACENCY HAS NO BUSINESS Around firearms.alternatively could we apply complacency to drink driving -i feeling complacent when i had the last beer ,then drove writing my car off and killing innocent people.
NO in both cases simple rules bloody prevail -rules understandable by children in primary schools(the lingo at least)and if you cant understand those bloody rules then NO FAL.you make it your 1st priority to always be aware of the state of readiness of your weapon, dog tired ,or fresh out of the fartsack dont matter.
I never never fail to frequently check my weapon and if IM hunting in a group -making fellow hunters aware of it.exactly the same. if geese are in abundance as we move in or out of the site -if im loaded all in the party know,so if opportunity does present ,and it has, we can take advantage.
on return to the truck-Its unload and get someone to verify empty breech&mag before i put the gun in its case.
same with my rifles-mag out ,bolt out gun stowed away ,mag,bolt and ammo all secured.
christ only knows I get the shits when travelling in the truck or car with my armoury -all is locked away and covered up .if a cop stops me and finds this whats he /she to think?? let alone the dubious forms of DNAwho allegedly govern us and make the bloody laws despite that fact that possibly 90%of them wouldnt know a modern hunting weaponif it was to leap up and bite them on the arse.no,its all rambo and sniper shit they talk,licking party members arses in the process.
as a modern f/a owner we gotta be aware of this.
the lacksadaisical actions of a 50 yr old shooter cannot under any circumstances be condoned nor excused-sad fact of life .otherwise we just serve to enable slack practise ,and we know what that outcome is.

Originally Posted by kotuku

sorry but COMPLACENCY HAS NO BUSINESS Around firearms.alternatively could we apply complacency to drink driving -i feeling complacent when i had the last beer ,then drove writing my car off and killing innocent people.
NO in both cases simple rules bloody prevail -rules understandable by children in primary schools(the lingo at least)and if you cant understand those bloody rules then NO FAL.you make it your 1st priority to always be aware of the state of readiness of your weapon, dog tired ,or fresh out of the fartsack dont matter.
I never never fail to frequently check my weapon and if IM hunting in a group -making fellow hunters aware of it.exactly the same. if geese are in abundance as we move in or out of the site -if im loaded all in the party know,so if opportunity does present ,and it has, we can take advantage.
on return to the truck-Its unload and get someone to verify empty breech&mag before i put the gun in its case.
same with my rifles-mag out ,bolt out gun stowed away ,mag,bolt and ammo all secured.
christ only knows I get the shits when travelling in the truck or car with my armoury -all is locked away and covered up .if a cop stops me and finds this whats he /she to think?? let alone the dubious forms of DNAwho allegedly govern us and make the bloody laws despite that fact that possibly 90%of them wouldnt know a modern hunting weaponif it was to leap up and bite them on the arse.no,its all rambo and sniper shit they talk,licking party members arses in the process.
as a modern f/a owner we gotta be aware of this.
the lacksadaisical actions of a 50 yr old shooter cannot under any circumstances be condoned nor excused-sad fact of life .otherwise we just serve to enable slack practise ,and we know what that outcome is.

Agree 100%
No excuses acceptable, we are all aware of the rules, and of the severity of risk if we don't stick to the rules.
Hells Bells, rules or not, common sense has a place, doesn't it. Are we still allowed to exercise that here?

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

Agree 100%
No excuses acceptable, we are all aware of the rules, and of the severity of risk if we don't stick to the rules.
Hells Bells, rules or not, common sense has a place, doesn't it. Are we still allowed to exercise that here?

Common sense is a commodity that is being bred out of nz, cotton wool is its would-be replacement.

Originally Posted by kidmac42

Common sense is a commodity that is being bred out of nz, cotton wool is its would-be replacement.

Obituary

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
- Why the early bird gets the worm;
- Life isn't always fair; and
- Maybe it was my fault..

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his son, Reason.

He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers:
I Know My Rights
I Want It Now
Someone Else Is To Blame
I'm A Victim
Not many attended his funeral because
so few realized he was gone..
If you still remember him, pass this on.
If not, join the majority and do nothing.

Originally Posted by kidmac42

Common sense is a commodity that is being bred out of nz, cotton wool is its would-be replacement.

So has accountability and boundaries. We have given up on dealing with the real problem, instead we put safety nets etc everywhere. Another example is driving, lowering speed limits, safety barriers going up everywhere. NOTHING is done to address the poor driving skills, just take the $ off the ones who exceed the speed limit by 4km. The same goes with firearm offending, easier to screw the legal firearm owners than deal with the criminal firearm offenders. Enuff dribble, have a happy and safe Easter.