Thread: Gunsmith - triggering event or not?

Originally Posted by no1_49er

See post #18 by DPT.

I am bemused, and sometimes disheartened, by the seemingly endless (mis)interpretation of what is written in the Regulations w.r.t. the carriage of firearms and ammunition.

Firstly, you would be well advised to visit the FSA website and download the pdf titled “Secure storage and transportation guide for firearms and ammunition”.
Go here to access that pdf https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....and-ammunition


Go to page 21 and (carefully) read section 6.3 – Regulation r19B.
Take particular note of 2. “Subclause (1) does not apply to a firearms licence holder if — (b) the licence holder is in the vehicle with the firearms or in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle in which the firearms are located.”

Don’t shoot the messenger; all I’m doing is placing the text of the Regulations here i.e. if you remain in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle (they are in your immediate possession) clause 1 does NOT apply – they don’t have to be locked up.

By all means, go right ahead and do anything over and above what is actually required but be practical and use common sense.

I believe you should be reading (a) to its full extent, note the “and” at the end. To me that says you need to fulfill (a) as well as (b) for that to apply.

Subclause (1) does not apply to a firearms licence holder if—
(a)
the holder is using a vehicle on a farm and undertaking farm-related activities, or is actively engaged in legally authorised hunting or wild animal or animal pest control on farmland, public land, or land used for an agricultural, a horticultural, or a silviculture business on which they are permitted to use firearms; and
(b)
the licence holder is in the vehicle with the firearms or in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle in which the firearms are located.

Originally Posted by no1_49er

See post #18 by DPT.

I am bemused, and sometimes disheartened, by the seemingly endless (mis)interpretation of what is written in the Regulations w.r.t. the carriage of firearms and ammunition.

Firstly, you would be well advised to visit the FSA website and download the pdf titled “Secure storage and transportation guide for firearms and ammunition”.
Go here to access that pdf https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....and-ammunition


Go to page 21 and (carefully) read section 6.3 – Regulation r19B.
Take particular note of 2. “Subclause (1) does not apply to a firearms licence holder if — (b) the licence holder is in the vehicle with the firearms or in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle in which the firearms are located.”

Don’t shoot the messenger; all I’m doing is placing the text of the Regulations here i.e. if you remain in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle (they are in your immediate possession) clause 1 does NOT apply – they don’t have to be locked up.

By all means, go right ahead and do anything over and above what is actually required but be practical and use common sense.

Pretty ironic statement considering you are pushing misinformation here.


The "and" is pretty important. You must have your firearm and ammunition secured in the ways they state earlier unless you are hunting etc AND are currently in the vehicle.

Otherwise they would have written «*Or*»