I got burgled about 14years ago in town . There wasn't meany places/containers they didn't open and go through. Working on a farm i dont take my keys with me but if i going away i will take them
I got burgled about 14years ago in town . There wasn't meany places/containers they didn't open and go through. Working on a farm i dont take my keys with me but if i going away i will take them
Have lots of ‘dummy’ ie useless keys hanging on your key hooks in house
Spare safe keys? Screw them to the back of a drawer that will not be removed in a furniture upgrade lol
The keys proper? On a hidden hook up inside a wardrobe where you have to feel, not see them
My 2c worth
Mate has a decent safe not toooo far away far away from there, but yes it's worth thinking about beforehand.. Left the missus' engagement ring in there (shortly before she got it ) when we were down a couple of years ago. Plus, my safe and the keys are still separated by nearly 900km when I'm down there. My most secure safe is combination jobbie, so can leave in there if necessary, but that's rare.
Identify your target beyond all doubt
decoy safe with grenade rigged inside.
Use enough gun
I assumed (yes the mother of all fuck ups) that one could not gain access to the lock/batteries/electronics from the outside.....doesn't seem very secure compared to a key.
However even a "E" safe is barely a minute to get into with no key or code but the tools for the job.....end of the day if they know you have what they want they will come tooled up not looking for keys or codes.
"Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.
308Win One chambering to rule them all.
So am I the only one that puts the key in a slice of dog roll and feeds it to the Great Dane? It's a shit of a job cleaning the key when you need it though.
It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
Rule 5: Check your firing zone
Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms
[QUOTE=veitnamcam;722648]Id recommend giving your spare set to a trusted relative or mate with a licence because.
When the set you use is taken from your ute or you lose them or whatever and you cant find the set you put in a "safe place" 5 or 6 years ago you have to cut your way in and.
You cark it or are no longer fit and proper at least the person you want to look after/inherit/sell etc can gain access without destroying stuff.
As for hidey spots I am all ears.....totally impractical for me to have my keys on me all the time I would lose them once a week.[/QUOT
I agree, my hunting buddy has my spare set, my wife knows he is to come and get my guns if anything happens to me. My key are always with me.
This is the kind of real world experience I was hoping for.
If I could have my time again I would've bought a safe with a combination lock.
Would keeping your keys on you pose a potential risk of if you loose your car key (spose doesn't happen to often) and someone undesirable finds them and gun cabinet key often stands out as being a bit different. I also have issue of the missus has FAL and between us we have a few different cars that we drive.
Most safes can be converted, a lot of the lock mounting systems are standardised, I did a killwell E-Cat safe and it took me about an hour.
The chance of a person identifying your address by finding a set of keys is pretty slim, far more likely to find a hidden key during a burg. When I did carry mine I had them on a small carabiner so I could unclip them quickly.
On the machines I'm in charge of I keep a spare key but you need tools to get it from where it's hidden. Make your keys hard to find by hand/ tipping stuff out of turning over stuff. If it can't be found without removing/ dismantling something to get to it chances are It won't be found . It may take you a couple of minutes to get your keys but be almost impossible for someone else. A spare key with someone else is a great idea but it shouldn't be able to be easily traced back to you. At the end of the day giving one to someone else is giving them potential access. Americans have safety deposit boxes but I'm not sure if we have the same sort of thing here
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Now, how DO you hide something that you can't hide? Make it look like something else.
An itch ... is ... a desire to scratch
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