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I think that's a tricky one.
It's certainly not a bad idea in principle , but could possibly be a major hurdle for some to complete a course simply through geography. All well and good if you live somewhere close to where any potential courses would be held. But being in the South island in particular there could potentially be ALOT of travel to get to said courses.
We are in Nelson for example which may be okay as far as course setting goes but it's five hours travel to the next major city such as chch so could potentially be a 2 1/2 hr trip to get to a course and the same home again if you live somewhere in between.
Plus we don't want it priced out of reach either.
We need as many FAL holders as we can to join the ranks and help remove the demonization of gun ownership and stand against any new bs laws.
Like I said... tricky.
But there must be a middle ground that can be found to increase training and safety without putting off potential gun owners.
Well those are my thoughts anyway...
born to hunt - forced to work
Considering everyones comments so far and mucko's post, it seems unanimous that proper practical firearms skills training is required. The question then for me is who should do it. Would it make sense for the Military to oversea these courses and for them to be held at the training barracks away from the main bases. In Canterbury we have the West Melton Range and Barracks, it is some considerable distance from Burnham.
Should we wright to ACT and ask them to raise the matter ??
said it before and got lynched for it......make licences graduated...just like drivers licence......have say a 12mths probation/learner period where you need a sponser...you can own firearms but they stored at sponsers house,you can have them for 48-72???hrs so need temporary storage....BUT they must be back in sponsers safe or you in the shit...
now me,if asked to be sponsor would ask#1 where you going #2 who with#3 and piss in wagon#wheres permit/permission#4 when you coming back.
if didnt like any of answers...piss off hairylegs,you not getting guns and if you dont like it,they can go to police station and you can ask Mr Plod if you can have them...
would really make you think before standing as sponsor,same as reference for someone...they would need to prove themselves fit n proper before you would....
THERE is multi page thread on other pub...I reserect it in march each year...all about near misses etc...frightening reading.
I blame the internet,
I feel sorry for your mate and every other person that has had a "close call"
Every forum on hunting has a thread about the "easy deer" by the hut, we are putting it into sheeples heads that there are deer near huts, ergo whenever you get near a hut there will be deer, its an expectation.
DOC are doing there best to remedy this, by removing all the huts. Except those where hunting is banned and you can have a great walk instead.
^^^^
Why is the internet only lighting up about this 10-11 months later?
What was reported at the time? Nothing?
If nothing, are you trying to tell me that a mountain biker that gets shot at practically face-to-face next to a hut doesn’t make a public fuss?
Sorry to sound cynical with everyone going off like Guy Fawkes but something doesn’t gel with the story.
Just...say...the...word
will see if can find thread and bump it,just incase you pop in for a pint.
Well not everyone is the type of person to make a fuss. Next time you are in Canterbury let me know and I will introduce you to my friend.
He only told me about it this week.
My guess is that all of us have had a terrifying near-on car crash that we only just avoided but didn't rush off and report, as an analogy
Just remember that the particular fkwit you mentioned in the last paragraph was reportedly mentioned to the plod on more than one occasion , including a high ranking officer from memory , by other members of his rifle range and what did they do about it....fuck all.
I wouldn't count on that particular bunch to be very useful
born to hunt - forced to work
I only got my FAL last year, no history of firearms in my family either, it was pretty easy to go get.
My step son hunts butI had never been out with him, the original idea for me was so he could store rifles at our place instead of his own place in Christchurch.
Have since teamed up with my work mate ho has hunted all his life to make sure I don't do anything stupid, I appreciate his time.
problem with military is nationwide access to a range for practical lessons in handling. where as NZDA have ranges in most places with multiple national range officers, a lot of the old timers where the guys in the mountain safety council who where doing the teaching on licence night at the local scout hall. there is intellectual and physical property in the NZDA to run the licencing training, the hurdle is the government does not want us united. but that's probably the best way to teach people to use firearms safely and prove fit and proper status.
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This is the main reason why I like hunting in restricted areas, much less likely to encounter another person (only poachers). Too many trigger fingers out there. Shame to die because of someone else's stupidity with firearms. Horrible. It's one thing for people to stupidly shoot at just movement or sound, but at such a short distance in such an open area?
It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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