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    Quickest way for FAL revoke or loss is an argument with a scorned woman.
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    Under the new Legislation when determining Fit & Proper Police cannot go back and use any convictions/transgressions retrospectively from before your last Firearms Licence was issued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSA View Post
    Under the new Legislation when determining Fit & Proper Police cannot go back and use any convictions/transgressions retrospectively from before your last Firearms Licence was issued.
    Do you know what section/paragraph states that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve123 View Post
    Do you know what section/paragraph states that?
    Fit and Proper Definition / NZ Police dated 11/4/22

    The criteria will not be applied retrospectively to reassess current licence holders but will be considered when Police respond to new actions by a current Licence holder after the commencement date of Section 24A

    That clause has been deleted from the new Firearms Authority website definition of Fit & Proper but it is the Law. (I cannot post the scanned copy I have from NZ Police - I can't reduce it in size to post here, I'm not very computer savvy.

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    Road Sign shooting is something that really boils me. Some how our licencing system allows people to slip through who then go on to shoot up road signs. It creates a clear public impression of firearms owners as destructive wankers. In the 'spirit of Easter' I would like to see any sign shooters caught, nailed up to a road sign and left for the birds to pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moa Hunter View Post
    Road Sign shooting is something that really boils me. Some how our licencing system allows people to slip through who then go on to shoot up road signs. It creates a clear public impression of firearms owners as destructive wankers. In the 'spirit of Easter' I would like to see any sign shooters caught, nailed up to a road sign and left for the birds to pick
    Yes, but I think nailing people to road signs is a bit counter productive, most are barely standing up and the rest are hard enough to read as is.
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    Missed the point, there. No fight happens without kids involved.

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    It can get ugly aye.

    These bloody lawyers have a lot to answer for.

    Over the years ive seen them lie, obstruct, wilfully mislead, not return calls, overcharge, bully, give bad advice and just generally be fuckwits.

    Sorry, I don't hold barristers in much regard at all. They seem to view the legal process as a money making game, and the defendants get shafted in the middle of their games. (and, after they have emptied their bank account that is).

    Ive seen a few in action whom I think should be de barred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tac a1 View Post
    It can get ugly aye.

    These bloody lawyers have a lot to answer for.

    Over the years ive seen them lie, obstruct, wilfully mislead, not return calls, overcharge, bully, give bad advice and just generally be fuckwits.

    Sorry, I don't hold barristers in much regard at all. They seem to view the legal process as a money making game, and the defendants get shafted in the middle of their games. (and, after they have emptied their bank account that is).

    Ive seen a few in action whom I think should be de barred.
    Complain to the Law Society. Complaints are taken seriously. Its not difficult.

    https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/for-th...bout-a-lawyer/
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    All these replies are proving my motto: 'happy wife, happy life.'

    It also shows that the best investment (time, effort and money) you can ever make is in your relationship/marriage.

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    Hot tip given to me if you ever thought she may be the one:
    Identify your future potential wife beyond all doubt
    Be sure of your future potential wife and whats behind it

    I heard this right before a mate left for a one month long bike tour through Peru with his then girlfriend.
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    The more I read from here, the more concerns I got for breaching laws and local rules by accident and unknown. I do `t speeding but I am a fast driver. I drink but never got drunk in my life, bad hangovers used to. Bar fight...I can do but I do `t think I will get many chances since I am an early bird, the only place I will go at night occasionally s casino. Play some poker games and enjoy the best pizza in the world.

    The concern is two things, one is trespassing. I felt no matter how good I am with those maps and how careful I will, I still may have a chance to meet a farmer who tells me I am on his/ her land. Is `t it? Second is discharge rife at a lawful ground without any complaints (reports) I am 100% willing to apply any rules, but sometimes I feel the argument is not what I can control by the rules of law, but the costs will be all my. So any farm owner or farm manager, hope you could give me some advice. I really really do `t want to any troubles. Or, if you found me on your land, please do `t report me immediately, I am no harm to you or your operation at all, I just lost I will buy you beers, whiskey, wine, lures, fishing lines.....let `s be friendly. Thank you
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    So be it

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    the nztoppo50 app is AWESOME for keeping you on correct side of boundary line..well its awesome at letting you know where it is...... how you/what you chose to do with that information is up to you.
    after an accusation of poaching a few years back,when I was at least a KM away from area really shook me up,I carry both gps and cell phone now,remembering to stop and ping a point of two gets forgotton all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    the nztoppo50 app is AWESOME for keeping you on correct side of boundary line..well its awesome at letting you know where it is...... how you/what you chose to do with that information is up to you.
    after an accusation of poaching a few years back,when I was at least a KM away from area really shook me up,I carry both gps and cell phone now,remembering to stop and ping a point of two gets forgotton all the same.
    Thanks MD, yes the NZ toppo map is very good, I downloaded almost all the SI maps as well some in NI, printed out all the blocks where I like to explore, even I kept a walking access officer `s cell phone, as she said to me that " if you have any doubt, call me and I will guide you through" nice lady. But, still....I am not like you MD , you knew what mean.
    So be it

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    Know of a bloke whos son lost his driving licence due to silly shit, and the son lived at home.... well the police turned up at his home to confiscate his firearms and take his FAL as well. All over his sons driving conviction.
    Needless to say he was straight on the ph to Nicholas Taylor. Can't remember the outcome.
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