Thread: Im lost for words

Originally Posted by Tussock

Add Ethiopia to that list. Very stable, but very brutal. Most of the lovely peaceful middle class friends I had there had nasty scars on their scalps.

Yemen looked the same although I was only passing thru on a visa run

Originally Posted by mikee

Yemen looked the same although I was only passing thru on a visa run

Argentina too, when I was there cops earned around $100US and had to supply their own sidearm and most if not all Govt employeys were getting IOU slips instead of pay.
They were expected to be corrupt to earn a living. Little ol country boy me first time ever overseas had been in the country less than a hour and was being led running threw riots in the st where I saw a cop shot presumably dead and all I could think was dont loose that guy(the guy who picked me up from the airport)
Everything was done with bribes,company even allocated me bribe money(not enough)

Originally Posted by Tussock

The ever increasing tone of a war zone for New Zealands deadly streets. Endless references to the "front line".

"It's like asking a soldier not to load his rifle until he is ready to fire."

It is just a job. People do dangerous jobs. People talk to armed mobs with machetes in a calm and conversational manner. People get punched, kicked and spat at as doorman for $20 and hour and if they put the slightest bruise on someone its and assault charge.

Its a safe country, there is no need to go all world war three every time a nutter goes nuts. The militarisation of police forces is ridiculous, but when they don't seem to get any training other than being convinced they are going to war on joe public its scary and a bit weird.

The language, the guns, the costumes. Ridiculous.

I have seen similar set ups in police states. The crims are nothing compared to the cops once they think they are soldiers.

Remind me what experience you have with policing in NZ, police training and dealing with the criminal element, because your comments seem to display a distinct lack.

Cops talk to armed people in a calm conversational manner, but it often doesn't work through no fault of the officers. Doorman don't get charged for putting bruises on people, most of the time it's justified, and when it's not that is when they get charged, much like a Police Officer. Cops don't get much more than $20 an hour either.

NZ is a safe country as a whole, and I'd like it to stay that way, but parts of it aren't safe, funnily enough Police spend most of their time in those areas, areas I'm guessing you don't go by choice.

Cops don't get trained that they are going "war on joe public", however they do get some training on how to lessen the risks to themselves.

Language ridiculous, how so? Guns ridiculous, how so? Should they get a Tikka or a 10/22? Costumes ridiculous, I'm guessing you're talking about the AOS 'costume'. Have you got a more practical way of carrying the necessary equipment along with body armour? Militarization or just practical and safe in a given situation?

I've seen and dealt with some corrupt Police forces overseas, luckily the NZ Police is a long way off of that.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Remind me what experience you have with policing in NZ, police training and dealing with the criminal element, because your comments seem to display a distinct lack.

Cops talk to armed people in a calm conversational manner, but it often doesn't work through no fault of the officers. Doorman don't get charged for putting bruises on people, most of the time it's justified, and when it's not that is when they get charged, much like a Police Officer. Cops don't get much more than $20 an hour either.

NZ is a safe country as a whole, and I'd like it to stay that way, but parts of it aren't safe, funnily enough Police spend most of their time in those areas, areas I'm guessing you don't go by choice.

Cops don't get trained that they are going "war on joe public", however they do get some training on how to lessen the risks to themselves.

Language ridiculous, how so? Guns ridiculous, how so? Should they get a Tikka or a 10/22? Costumes ridiculous, I'm guessing you're talking about the AOS 'costume'. Have you got a more practical way of carrying the necessary equipment along with body armour? Militarization or just practical and safe in a given situation?

I've seen and dealt with some corrupt Police forces overseas, luckily the NZ Police is a long way off of that.

Indeed.

Oh the arm chair critics...

I think the only thing that will happen now is they are going to spend millions on designing new uniforms so it can't happen again..............and once they've done that they will spend millions on redesigning as the one they just done didn't work.

The solution is pretty simple. Don't give anyone an excuse to turn up at your doorstep with a gun. Cop. Gangsta. Jealous husband. YOU are the master of your own destiny. Really.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

The solution is pretty simple. Don't give anyone an excuse to turn up at your doorstep with a gun. Cop. Gangsta. Jealous husband. YOU are the master of your own destiny. Really.

It will be funny when your vehicle is stolen and used in a armed robbery and the AOS storm your house.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It will be funny when your vehicle is stolen and used in a armed robbery and the AOS storm your house.

Cool story.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It will be funny when your vehicle is stolen and used in a armed robbery and the AOS storm your house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting

Yea those guys.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yea those guys.

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So overrun by US anti terror forces in Taradice.

You must read Stuff a lot.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

The solution is pretty simple. Don't give anyone an excuse to turn up at your doorstep with a gun. Cop. Gangsta. Jealous husband. YOU are the master of your own destiny. Really.

Yep, in a nutshell. Amazing how many people don't understand that absolutely everything that happens to you in life is a direct result of the choices you make.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Yeah, nah. It is in the utopia we live in, but we live off borrowed money. People make the decision not to take an interest in what can be done to them or the erosion of their liberties.

Most of the world lives in fear and the nasty shit that happens to them is due to the wealth gap. The very rich people start to sweat when they are surrounded by the very poor, and increasing brutality is required to keep the rabble in its place.

What a load of dribble. Every time I have ended up with a bunch of cops kneeling on my chest I dammed well deserved it

Ditto Tussock well said, amazing how those involved close ranks and stick their heads in the sand! It's just a job people choose to do, it's as bad as being a care giver to me. Stop fucking trying to cover up. Open up an face the facts, it's a fuck up and him and his boss should be done! The situation was under control and still someone gets shot! It could have been a fellow cop or a person walking past. Why the protection?