Thread: Im lost for words

I think the chip on your shoulder is blinding you to see the world the way you want to, not the way it actually is.

Originally Posted by Shooter

Accidental shooting in South Auckland - National - NZ Herald News

I would say this would be what you are after...

It sounds like this guy was being a numpty and would be right to be charged if there were any details but presumably he shot himself through stupid handling yes but my point is that the officer in this incident also displayed very poor handling skills and the case shows that we need to train the cops more often as, just like everybody else, some of them are a bit dense

There is an independent body:

IPCA - Independent Police Conduct Authority of New Zealand

The general public is very supportive in my experience, issuing traffic tickets is probably the biggest hindrance to public support.

Originally Posted by Savage1

There is an independent body:

IPCA - Independent Police Conduct Authority of New Zealand

The general public is very supportive in my experience, issuing traffic tickets is probably the biggest hindrance to public support.

Yep I think your right on that one

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It will be funny when your vehicle is stolen and used in a armed robbery and the AOS storm your house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting

Yea those guys.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yea those guys.

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So overrun by US anti terror forces in Taradice.

You must read Stuff a lot.

Explain to me, why at any point during a resolved situation do you sling a loaded firearm, safety on or off.

I just can't get my head around it. It's like just putting the safety on and leaving a round in the chamber at a range while everyone walks down, even then, it should still be untouched but would still be considered a massive fuck up!

Originally Posted by kiwijames

So overrun by US anti terror forces in Taradice.

You must read Stuff a lot.

No I just have had a vehicle stolen and used in a armed robbery.
You have your head in the sand if you think the cops will never come see me if I am a good boy.
You cannot predict what the rest of the population will do at any given time.
To say everything that happens is the result of your actions is retarded in the extream.
If an 80year old lady is raped and bashed in her own home by a prospect looking to earn his patch is that her fault for getting old and frail?

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opinions are like arseholes feet&armpits -we all have em and often they stink.sad to say some of the opinions on here seem to point more to an underlying anticop bias than the actual incident itself.as for NZ herald reports ,Iwouldnt trust that leftist rag -its only use is to wipe ones arse.
tussock-do you sniff any of those rocks you play with cause at times your words seem to be delving a little into the magical.but then again like savage what would i know im just a little old psychiatric nurse.eh guys.have a nice day enjoy your lattes.

Originally Posted by kotuku

tussock-do you sniff any of those rocks you play with cause at times your words seem to be delving a little into the magical.

+1


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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

No I just have had a vehicle stolen and used in a armed robbery.
You have your head in the sand if you think the cops will never come see me if I am a good boy.
You cannot predict what the rest of the population will do at any given time.
To say everything that happens is the result of your actions is retarded in the extream.
If an 80year old lady is raped and bashed in her own home by a prospect looking to earn his patch is that her fault for getting old and frail?

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Goodness me, a rather dramatic start to the morning Cam?
So you're telling me after having your car stolen AOS stormed your home and put you in a position where they could have accidentally shot you?
IIRC you were whining about how little Police attention you got after it got nicked.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Explain to me, why at any point during a resolved situation do you sling a loaded firearm, safety on or off

Er, just cause one guy is on the ground and cuffed does not mean the situation is "resolved". Your comments on police procedures make me wonder if you ever exited the vehicle on the ride-alongs you claim to have gone on.

I spent several years carrying a firearm while at work. We would only ever unload the firearm back at base when the shift finished. Carrying a loaded firearm with the safety on is very common practise.

Just my opinion, not a trained AOS member or anything, but if it was me and the original situation called for me and my AOS buddies to be called there in the first place, I wouldn't have my weapon at any state other than ready until all the bad guys were cuffed and in the back of a car.

None of us were there.

This was investigated independently and had a jury trial. What more do people want?


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Originally Posted by Jexla

Explain to me, why at any point during a resolved situation do you sling a loaded firearm, safety on or off.

I just can't get my head around it. It's like just putting the safety on and leaving a round in the chamber at a range while everyone walks down, even then, it should still be untouched but would still be considered a massive fuck up!

I think you'll find, including military, that when firearms are in use they are cleared and emptied after the situation is resolved and is closed. Resolved isn't just having someone handcuffed, it's when they've left the scene.

A situation of having Police unload and show clear to a colleague while people/perps are still being engaged with would create a very unsafe environment, for everyone, especially the public. It would be difficult to protect the public - after all, that's what they're there for with loaded firearms - if the situation escalated and Mr HandCuffed Fucktard or an unseen associate decided to cause more trouble.

There's plenty of body cam videos on YT showing how quickly a benign, quiet scene can escalate to the use of firearms very, very quickly.