Thread: Im lost for words

Originally Posted by Maca49

Ditto Tussock well said, amazing how those involved close ranks and stick their heads in the sand! It's just a job people choose to do, it's as bad as being a care giver to me. Stop fucking trying to cover up. Open up an face the facts, it's a fuck up and him and his boss should be done! The situation was under control and still someone gets shot! It could have been a fellow cop or a person walking past. Why the protection?

Agree, but the problem is we don't know who this guy is or why the AOS where called. If it went more along the lines off............AOS accidentally shots rapist while handcuffed........I wonder how this thread would be tracking

Originally Posted by Maca49

Ditto Tussock well said, amazing how those involved close ranks and stick their heads in the sand! It's just a job people choose to do, it's as bad as being a care giver to me. Stop fucking trying to cover up. Open up an face the facts, it's a fuck up and him and his boss should be done! The situation was under control and still someone gets shot! It could have been a fellow cop or a person walking past. Why the protection?

What cover up?! The officer was charged by Police and the prosecution was handed on to the Crown then he was acquitted by a jury who were presented the available facts! Who closed ranks? Who conducted the cover up? What protection was offered to the officer? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by Savage1

What cover up?! The officer was charged by Police and the prosecution was handed on to the Crown then he was acquitted by a jury who were presented the available facts! Who closed ranks? Who conducted the cover up? What protection was offered to the officer? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Savage the protectionism and closed ranks is all over you. If any business, and policing is a business, it has to be open, totally open. The police are not there yet. I respect the fact you have a job that burns you, but you need to look through it and see it is not perfect.As I've said before I respect the police and the law, but there are times a wound has to be opened and cleaned out correctly for it to heal and consequences faced squarely. Leave excuses behind.

Originally Posted by Maca49

Savage the protectionism and closed ranks is all over you. If any business, and policing is a business, it has to be open, totally open. The police are not there yet. I respect the fact you have a job that burns you, but you need to look through it and see it is not perfect.As I've said before I respect the police and the law, but there are times a wound has to be opened and cleaned out correctly for it to heal and consequences faced squarely. Leave excuses behind.

I think you are talking about an old Police force, I'm the first to admit the Police aren't perfect but corrupt? No way, not in my experience, and is also shown clearly by how quick Police are to prosecute their own, just as in this case. I'm not sure what you've experienced in the past, but I can assure you that things have changed.

Originally Posted by Savage1

I think you are talking about an old Police force, I'm the first to admit the Police aren't perfect but corrupt? No way, not in my experience, and is also shown clearly by how quick Police are to prosecute their own, just as in this case. I'm not sure what you've experienced in the past, but I can assure you that things have changed.

There's to much internal assessment, there should be an independent body that looks at this, open is a great free word, releasing it is a prob in most companies.
You know if the police opened up the general public would be even more supportive,

I'd be fine with that, would have shot him myself but it's very basic to have a loaded gun when the situ is under control. Hope he's not a weekend hunter!

Originally Posted by Tussock

Tribe my girl lived and worked with file their teeth down to points. This is because when they win a fight, they rip their opponents nuts off with their teeth, then either hang them from the rafters in their hut, or wear them around their necks.

You go out with Sue Bradford?

Originally Posted by Tussock

Tribe my girl lived and worked with file their teeth down to points. This is because when they win a fight, they rip their opponents nuts off with their teeth, then either hang them from the rafters in their hut, or wear them around their necks.

Sounds like the Helen Clark School of Dentistry.

I think the chip on your shoulder is blinding you to see the world the way you want to, not the way it actually is.

Originally Posted by Kscott

I think the chip on your shoulder is blinding you to see the world the way you want to, not the way it actually is.

Im perfectly balanced I have a chip on both shoulders

Originally Posted by Maca49

Im perfectly balanced I have a chip on both shoulders

Noice !

There is an independent body:

IPCA - Independent Police Conduct Authority of New Zealand

The general public is very supportive in my experience, issuing traffic tickets is probably the biggest hindrance to public support.

Originally Posted by Savage1

There is an independent body:

IPCA - Independent Police Conduct Authority of New Zealand

The general public is very supportive in my experience, issuing traffic tickets is probably the biggest hindrance to public support.

Yep I think your right on that one

Explain to me, why at any point during a resolved situation do you sling a loaded firearm, safety on or off.

I just can't get my head around it. It's like just putting the safety on and leaving a round in the chamber at a range while everyone walks down, even then, it should still be untouched but would still be considered a massive fuck up!

Originally Posted by Jexla

Explain to me, why at any point during a resolved situation do you sling a loaded firearm, safety on or off

Er, just cause one guy is on the ground and cuffed does not mean the situation is "resolved". Your comments on police procedures make me wonder if you ever exited the vehicle on the ride-alongs you claim to have gone on.

I spent several years carrying a firearm while at work. We would only ever unload the firearm back at base when the shift finished. Carrying a loaded firearm with the safety on is very common practise.