Thread: Im lost for words

Hahahahah heathers his alias?

Originally Posted by Mauser308

Post what you will, there is no difference between a serving officer and average Jo and Jane Bloggs in that situation yet one gets the 'good ol boy done an oops' treatment and the other gets crushed by whatever means necessary.

You've missed the point, the officer WAS charged, went to trial and went through the judicial system exactly the same was any civilian would. If you want to ignore the facts, well no-one can help you.

One shooting of an innocent by anyone is inexcusible and unforgiveable, yet it keeps happening. I don't care who the nut behind the butt is. They should all be locked up so the message is clear, keep control of the weapon at all times and ID the target correctly.

I know, those bloody hunters who shoot innocent people. Good job we don't tar every single hunter as being such dickheads aye. Hmm, number of people shot by accidental discharge by hunters vs number of people shot by accidental discharge by serving Police officers. And the number of people who have shot others and are never charged ?

Nice trolling though Mauser.

Originally Posted by Kscott

You've missed the point, the officer WAS charged, went to trial and went through the judicial system exactly the same was any civilian would. If you want to ignore the facts, well no-one can help you.



I know, those bloody hunters who shoot innocent people. Good job we don't tar every single hunter as being such dickheads aye. Hmm, number of people shot by accidental discharge by hunters vs number of people shot by accidental discharge by serving Police officers. And the number of people who have shot others and are never charged ?

Nice trolling though Mauser.

Its pretty clear what he's getting at. He just doesn't like Police. Might even go as far as to say "hate".
When you get to that stage, facts don't mean a thing.

From what I remember, only the handcuffed guy and the Auckland motorway incident are the only ones where people have accidently been shot by Police.
Yet how many hunters have been shot. Shit, even fathers shoot their own sons. That's far worse than Police shooting someone in stressful incidents.
But as has been said, we don't taint all hunters do we. But by mausers theory, we should.

Its pretty clear what he's getting at. He just doesn't like Police. Might even go as far as to say "hate".
When you get to that stage, facts don't mean a thing.
I don't know how to do that small quote stuff, so a bit of cut and paste will have to do.

I think reading between the lines of all this, yes the cops get a bad wrap. Why? well when you have dealt with them on other issues unfortunately the respect thing goes out the window. Now I'm only talking about when I've been the victim (have been on both sides but will leave that for another day), home invasion, theft, stolen goods, willful (spelling?) damage, etc,etc. Three times I can remember I ended up supply all the information to the cops ( I was the only one that wanted to do something about it apparently), which they ended up using to get the crim, so the crim could be told to go home and be a good boy!!!! on two of these issues I ended up feeling like the criminal. Then to top it off when you want a cop they aren't available because there's a funding shortage but there seems to be enough hiding behind the bushes in the school zones and trying to catch everyone out for any little item.
When the road toll is down for a year the cops give themselves a big pat on the back, look at us this is because we patrolled the streets so hard with zero tolerance WTF haven't heard much this year how successful it was. How bad is cruising at 110km's down the road?
Or you have the other end of it, fuckwits out on bail or worse still fuckwits that get some home D.
Now Im not stupid, I know that the blame doesn't lie with the police that we meet every day, its so much higher up the chain and I'm not even going to mention the "car crusher"! But a lot off these cops have such a chip on there shoulder its unbelievable. so yes the majority of the good barstids (mind block) take the shit for it, no different from "all firearms users" are dangerous.
Also I think where some of the digs are coming from is that Policemen (women) are meant to be this highly trained person, they are allowed firearms because they are highly skilled, they are allowed to be in high speed chases because they are highly skilled.
Maybe some of the people that wear the uniform shouldn't take it so personally, its an industry just like everyone else has and there are people within that industry that make it harder for the good buggers.
And no I wouldn't want to be a cop dealing with all those other pricks you have to deal with daily, I have to deal with enough of them as it is.

You say its the Police fault for the poor punishment against the people that stole your shit. How about blaming the justice system and the judge. They pass sentence, not the Police.

And is if the Police fault they don't have enough staff. How can they be blamed for not been given enough money for staff.

Seems like you are blaming the wrong people.

A little unfair to use them as a scapegoat. Yes there are some not so flash police, but majority are very good at their job.

Originally Posted by jim160

You say its the Police fault for the poor punishment against the people that stole your shit. How about blaming the justice system and the judge. They pass sentence, not the Police.

And is if the Police fault they don't have enough staff. How can they be blamed for not been given enough money for staff.

Seems like you are blaming the wrong people.


A little unfair to use them as a scapegoat. Yes there are some not so flash police, but majority are very good at their job.

You should jump of your high horse and read the part where I blame the people higher up the ladder. But your coment reinforces the rest of what I was saying.

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tussock-are you accusing me of cultivated ignorance
cause it sure seems like it.if ,thats if you wanna get personal ,well frankly I couldnt give a proverbial what you may or may not think ,apart from saying you do at times apppear to ramble!goodday to you and the donkey you rode in on!

Remember the mechanic who got fukt in Court because a universal joint he worked on went thru a windscreen and took a driver's head off? Responsibility is the call. This cop should go to jail. full stop.

Originally Posted by keneff

Remember the mechanic who got fukt in Court because a universal joint he worked on went thru a windscreen and took a driver's head off? Responsibility is the call. This cop should go to jail. full stop.

Well, the justice system said he was not guilty so he gets to go home. You can say what you want, but he had a fair trial, and was found not guilty.

The mechanic would have had the same trial, and was found guilty. That is if he went to trial, I have no idea as I haven't heard about it. He may have pled guilty, so obviously he would have been convicted.

Did the driver die as a result of his work, or was he injured. Im guessing he died, given you said it took his head off. Quite a difference between causing death and causing injury.

Originally Posted by kotuku

tussock-are you accusing me of cultivated ignorance
cause it sure seems like it.if ,thats if you wanna get personal ,well frankly I couldnt give a proverbial what you may or may not think ,apart from saying you do at times apppear to ramble!goodday to you and the donkey you rode in on!

The king of rambling accuses others of rambling, now I've seen it all.

Originally Posted by keneff

Remember the mechanic who got fukt in Court because a universal joint he worked on went thru a windscreen and took a driver's head off? Responsibility is the call. This cop should go to jail. full stop.

This pesky annoying judicial system we have in NZ

It is not just the "Militarisation" of the police - It's the policisation" of the police . That fuckwit O'onnor calls the police the "intimidation arm of government" That should show where they are coming from. If I shot someone because my gear cought and released my safety,I would be busted for incompetence, if nothing else. That cop should face public trial, like anyone else who shot someone.

Originally Posted by keneff

It is not just the "Militarisation" of the police - It's the policisation" of the police . That fuckwit O'onnor calls the police the "intimidation arm of government" That should show where they are coming from. If I shot someone because my gear cought and released my safety,I would be busted for incompetence, if nothing else. That cop should face public trial, like anyone else who shot someone.

He was charged by Police.
He went to trial and was found not guilty.

Originally Posted by keneff

It is not just the "Militarisation" of the police - It's the policisation" of the police . That fuckwit O'onnor calls the police the "intimidation arm of government" That should show where they are coming from. If I shot someone because my gear cought and released my safety,I would be busted for incompetence, if nothing else. That cop should face public trial, like anyone else who shot someone.

I think he's trolling, surely he can't be that ignorant and stupid.