Thread: Inappropriate sentencing

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

interesting THAT particular phone call was recorded....even more so that it was able to be brought up what???2 years after conversation...this stinks of a big fat red herring....

hannibal hipkins strikes again!IIRC second time "got the bash .must dash" nash has been DCM'd as MOP.yup 2023 is tellin me all the occupants have left those institutions.PS??how come her ladyship never knew about it

Its life Jim ..simply not as we know it!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by vulcannz

What do you think is going to happen? Our prisons have what something like 8000 beds, and are full ... and Nash has 7000 gang members on charges - where are they going to put them.

Himmm is this a trick question……….don’t tempt me I’ve a few ideas and Nash can join them!!

Absolutely no excuse for his actions, no mater how much we may agree with him on the light sentence (total wet bus ticket).
He kept the rest of his portfolios. plenty time for him to make more bad press.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Why the ministerial interest in this particular case, though?.Light sentences being handed out that surprise most people are not exactly rare in NZ,there are any number of those in any given year, even sometimes for matters involving violence.

Because nash was MOP when pushing for firearms legislation changes. He knows it's a total cock up and didn't want the media running a story of what happened, look at these light sentences

Maybe his hair dye seeped in and gave him some brain damage.

As opposed to this guy, who got 80 hours community service (can't remember exactly, it's behind the herald paywall) for reporting his guns were stolen to be able to keep them from the buyback.. Oh, and he was a serving policeman. Why didn't Fasc Nash get involved in this case one wonders?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...ck-scheme.html

Some interesting legal perspectives/opinions here:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...e-ruling-about

Originally Posted by Tommy

As opposed to this guy, who got 80 hours community service (can't remember exactly, it's behind the herald paywall) for reporting his guns were stolen to be able to keep them from the buyback.. Oh, and he was a serving policeman. Why didn't Fasc Nash get involved in this case one wonders?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...ck-scheme.html

I rad that and am wondering a few things...Why would he be dumb enough to hide a pistol (9mm) as they are already registered / endorsed and not part of the buyback then anyway...I presume he lost his license and endorsements too.....Or one would hope.

Originally Posted by timattalon

I rad that and am wondering a few things...Why would he be dumb enough to hide a pistol (9mm) as they are already registered / endorsed and not part of the buyback then anyway...I presume he lost his license and endorsements too.....Or one would hope.

I figured they were stored in the same endorsed level safe, so it had to go at the same time, and he may have thought that if he's going to have an off ticket rifle, he may as well have an off ticket pistol too.

Note how they don't disclose his occupation btw....

So apparently Nash has done this sort of thing before, where he commented on a court case in 2020 and the Solicitor General was considering prosecuting Nash - but the Attorney General decided not to - the AG was David Parker (was on Newstalk ZB, on the Herald now).

saw that on news...and AGAIN he said something that 99% of us would agree with.....
along the lines of ,when talking about someone who had shot two police "I hope they get sent to jail for a very long time"
tis a strange can of worms

People who get undue light sentance, espially for such serious things, that you and I would have got jail time for, have often thrown other ppl under a bus for it. Happens all the time and never info that is released.
Seen it before, two people on meth charges, both equivalent records, same charge. One 5 years one 18 months. One was in seg unit, because he had people out to get him for narking. One was main stream.

Entering this conversation, having stirred up all manner of opinions, about Judges and their discretionary rulings, in a previous post.
I find it amusing that it’s now making a mockery of politicians, some deservedly stupid ones tripping over their own feet, other showing a lack of comprehension of the rules. Bit like reading a MAD magazine, Dukes of Hazard County here we come.

P.S Lucky he declined the Fight for life invitation, knock yourself out, he would have punched himself in the head.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

saw that on news...and AGAIN he said something that 99% of us would agree with.....
along the lines of ,when talking about someone who had shot two police "I hope they get sent to jail for a very long time"
tis a strange can of worms

The problem is it is fine for us (joe public) to sit on our couch and pass judgement. But he is a crown minister, and any influence (perceived or real) could result in a mistrial and the guy getting away free. As a crown minister he is held to a higher standard of behaviour for a very good reason.

We hear it all the time "I cannot comment on matters before the courts" from ministers for good reason.