Thread: License vetting and medical information

Originally Posted by Paddy79

So the form is only for house hold members? so if you live alone then do they need that same form for doing the referee character checks?

The form is actually for the license applicant but they're using it for other members of the household.

Can you imagine being a younger person in a flatting situation at Uni or just left home etc? This is a goat rodeo.



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All of this might just be the intention from the start. Make people jump through more hoops. Possibly not being able to get all the paperwork sorted out even before submitting it is one of their desired results. Who knows....


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Someone needs to prescribe a healthy dose of reality to these idiots.

I am seriously considering surrendering my licences and starting a motorcycle 'club'
It is the only legal avenue I can see to continue enjoying my shooting sports.

Originally Posted by 40mm

Someone needs to prescribe a healthy dose of reality to these idiots.

I am seriously considering surrendering my licences and starting a motorcycle 'club'
It is the only legal avenue I can see to continue enjoying my shooting sports.

Hahahahaha


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The lunatics are running the asylum...

Massive over-reach by Mr Plod. Violates privacy laws and doc-patient confidentiality as far as I am concerned.

Will be interesting talking to some mates who are on FCAF. I doubt this was even discussed there, more likely just "let's push the boat out a bit further and see if they notice"...

Also adds another hurdle to the licensing process, and magically increases the cost without them even increasing the license fee. Last time I saw my GP was $ 35 ?

$35????? Try $65 in Wellington! It's extortion. It's cheaper to buy crutches than go to the doc for a sprained ankle.

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

$35????? Try $65 in Wellington! It's extortion. It's cheaper to buy crutches than go to the doc for a sprained ankle.

Jaysus ! You need to move to Upper Huttistan

I can’t help but wonder how many front line police officers are currently on some meds that could make them react differently let alone our politicians!! 2 recent ones spring to mind 3 if you include Bloomfield & theses guys are running the show , do they need to get vetted & supply medical records to run the country .

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

I can’t help but wonder how many front line police officers are currently on some meds that could make them react differently let alone our politicians!! 2 recent ones spring to mind 3 if you include Bloomfield & theses guys are running the show , do they need to get vetted & supply medical records to run the country .

The front line guys are mostly pretty decent, it is the inspector and up ranks you should be testing, plus everyone working at HQ in Welly.

Originally Posted by mimms2

We need a "double-like" button.
I've always thought politicians (aka, the biggest taxpayer-funded-beneficiaries) shaold be drug, alcohol, and means -tested for their positions. Goose and gander, and such.

Only... "fit and proper" isn't a requirement to be a crown policy enforcement agent (aka, police)?

oh hell yes!! mostly drug tested!
if its good enough for me to get tested on a building site etc its good enough for those buggers!
i have nothing to hide but i sure bet they have, especially one minister who looks constantly one step away from roid rage . i wont say his name nut it rhymes with cash

Originally Posted by Rushy

Fuck me dead! What next?

I think tell em nout, I don’t want this info in the hands of their insecurity? What a bunch of wankers, I wouldn’t give that info to anyone!

And as many Licence Holders are good fit outdoorsy real men - I suspect many will not even have a doctor, or know what one is. Heck I got my last medical 10+ years ago for the Bus in a medical centre in Auckland - that I cant even remember.

@Feral.
Judging by their behaviour, the Police need be thoroughly vetted before they are allowed to have access to firearms and 'less than lethal' equipment.

After just going through the renewal process something I found interesting is I was told by the AO here the extra people they want to interview, in additional to the those required on the application form and in the Arms Regulations, are NOT character references for the applicant. They are vettored as to be FIT AND PROPER as if they were also renewing or applying for a FAL.
There are NO forms for these people to fill out to give their permission for this to happen, like those asked on the application form. These extra people along with applicant, have been led to believe they are just character references that the declaration on the bottom of the application form covers police permissions. The vettors handbook being signed is only a declaration of what is disscussed at the interview NOT a permission to go through with the interview.
When I questioned their legality of these new procedures, I was told "to do as I was told or we'll come and take everything".

Originally Posted by ebf

The front line guys are mostly pretty decent, it is the inspector and up ranks you should be testing, plus everyone working at HQ in Welly.

I would think the likes of detectives & AOS squad members dealing with the things they do would be ripe candidates , must be pretty hard to un see some of the jobs they attend , no disrespect intended but they like us are only human too , but why should there be two sets of rules .