Thread: Man who shot teen dead in hunting accident 22 years ago loses firearms licence bid

Originally Posted by Jexla

Which accidents do you purpose the new system will be likely to lower?

I don't know what the new system is like or what it will change if anything.....purely stating the current system is a failure aimed at getting pretty much everyone through so long as they attend.
That is the impression I was left with when I sat mine. We were constantly reminded that these "course providers" would get us through and weren't here to fail us.

@Spanners why is it that Boaraxa's post hasn't been deleted? Abuse towards another member shouldn't be acceptable either.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

@Spanners why is it that Boaraxa's post hasn't been deleted? Abuse towards another member shouldn't be acceptable either.

If Spanners deleted all the babys and bitching on here latley there'd be no one left .
Clean it up guys or fuck off.

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Originally Posted by Boaraxa

@Cordite you are a fuckwit I don't no what makes you think its ok to post such sic images you mite find it funny but I do not nor would any member of my family looking at that shit , your a queer cunt take your sic images & fuck off

@Boaraxa

Sorry to have offended you, but mind your language if your kids are about on the forum. Mods, fine to blank the carnage images. This is what happens on roads but we take more note of hunters making mistakes, so who is sick?

Spanners I agree with Sasquatch above. Now I don't want to come across as a prick here and perhaps some will make that judgement anyway but that is just too bad. Can you explain why you took Cordites photos down please. I wish to know the facts and don't want to be made to guess.
I would like to also know from Cordite why he posted those photos. Seems that so far judgements are being made based on guesses and not facts
Some poor bastard has to actually clean-up after those road accidents we only saw the pictures
HOW I SEE THIS SPANNERS AND EVERYONE ELSE IS THAT AVOIDABLE ACCIDENTAL DEATHS RESULTING FROM BOTH THE MIS-USE OF FIREARMS AND VEHICLES ARE UNACCEPTABLE !!
The road toll keeps climbing each year - it's not like it is totally under control and nothing to worry about, in fact the reverse is true. And that is despite more speed restrictions, blood alcohol reductions, seatbelts road realignments etc etc. If we are not actually mature enough to face the morbid reality of what can happen through driving or hunting accidents, are we mature enough to have a firearms licence ??.

Any more the whole things gone.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Spanners I agree with Sasquatch above. Now I don't want to come across as a prick here and perhaps some will make that judgement anyway but that is just too bad. Can you explain why you took Cordites photos down please. I wish to know the facts and don't want to be made to guess.
I would like to also know from Cordite why he posted those photos. Seems that so far judgements are being made based on guesses and not facts
Some poor bastard has to actually clean-up after those road accidents we only saw the pictures
HOW I SEE THIS SPANNERS AND EVERYONE ELSE IS THAT AVOIDABLE ACCIDENTAL DEATHS RESULTING FROM BOTH THE MIS-USE OF FIREARMS AND VEHICLES ARE UNACCEPTABLE !!
The road toll keeps climbing each year - it's not like it is totally under control and nothing to worry about, in fact the reverse is true. And that is despite more speed restrictions, blood alcohol reductions, seatbelts road realignments etc etc. If we are not actually mature enough to face the morbid reality of what can happen through driving or hunting accidents, are we mature enough to have a firearms licence ??.

@Moa Hunter

I think you summarise quite well why I posted the images, thanks, but add an element of frustration. It was to stir up debate, because as pointed out above there's massive denial about a horror side of our favourite transport, but my frustration was of how up in arms people get about a shooter who is no worse in his accident.

Half as gruesome images would have done better though --- but I suspect the problem of forum members is more to do with a perfectly normal human aversion to contemplating human death. What got to me in the motorbike image was that the guy had cool gloves... of no use to him. His mode of death was as uninteresting as it was obvious. Yes, show them to your son for his road safety so he knows the kind of cold mind he needs for the road. Plenty rifle suicide brain shot pictures out there too when it comes to firearms safety training. Instill absolute gut revulsion at even the thought of pointing a firearm in an unsafe direction.

Has anyone in New Zealand ever accidentally fatally shot somebody and got their firearms licence back?

Originally Posted by jakewire

Any more the whole things gone.

No it's not jakewire, the reverse is actually true. We are all being made to think about what is important. While it is great to learn from the fantastic pool of firearms and hunting knowledge here related to our sport intermingled with all forms of humor, we only have that sport we love because it is accepted by society as a whole. Some members of the non hunting public might find a dog shredding a possum, a goat running around with its guts hanging out bleating like a human child crying, or two dogs stretching a piglet out like a guitar string just as offensive as the road fatality images, things that we can look at and with heartfelt compassion say " that fixed the bastard"??
This thread started because Systolic thought it important enough to bring the case of Diacks re-licencing to our attention. I am pleased he did.

Has anyone in New Zealand ever accidentally fatally shot somebody and got their firearms licence back??

I think you misunderstood me Moa Hunter so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'll make it clear.

It takes me one click and everything disappears.
Any more abuse of members and that is exactly what will happen.

Not sure about you, but I don’t see photos of dismembered bodies on TV3 news, Facebook, Stuff, the Press or anywhere else in my daily goings.

Regardless of the context or how you think it applies and is appropriate to a Hunting forum- it’s not, and is not going to be accepted in any way.

What was an interesting civil discussion was well fucked by that interjection.



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Originally Posted by .300 RUM Guy

Has anyone in New Zealand ever accidentally fatally shot somebody and got their firearms licence back??

There is someone who has fatally shot another and has a firearms license - yes.

Whether it was lost and regained, never lost, or issued for the 1st after said event - unsure exactly.


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Drunk drivers who cause a fatal accident can get their licence back in due time. So should a person in a hunting/shooting accident be allowed to gain a licence back?

Originally Posted by Spanners

There is someone who has fatally shot another and has a firearms license - yes.

Whether it was lost and regained, never lost, or issued for the 1st after said event - unsure exactly.


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Thanks Spanners.