Thread: Media Firearms beat-up continues

Should the age someone can get a firearms licence be raised? - Opinion - NZ Herald News

There is absolutely a concerted effort within the media to keep firearm issues (or should I say "issues") at the forefront of public debate. I feel they are clutching at straws now and almost detect a sense of frustration.

It is interesting that the greater weight of opinion is against them in the responses

This is like having a boat spring a leak and you decide to regular engine maintenance that you did 2 weeks ago. Completely useless and just keeping preocupided so you don't have to think about the real problem.

As one great lady has said....

Beauty fades...dumb is forever....
Convert the saying into firearms lingo and you get,...

Raise the age....dumb is forever....

It ain't gonna fix dumb !

I thought that with the win in the rugby over the week end those idiots would be off our back for a few more weeks....
But no:-(

This is the same debate that we had in Oz, before some dick decided to kill 36 people with a semi auto 7.62. Soon made everybody realise that military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.
So while America keeps on having mass shootings and we have people killing each other here, then the media will take every advantage to make headlines. We are so lucky with the gun laws that we have, but I think they are too relaxed and require some overhauling.
Age limiting isn't one that needs changing, semi-auto high powered weapons in un-trained would be a good start.

Originally Posted by Natatale

This is the same debate that we had in Oz, before some dick decided to kill 36 people with a semi auto 7.62. Soon made everybody realise that military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.
So while America keeps on having mass shootings and we have people killing each other here, then the media will take every advantage to make headlines. We are so lucky with the gun laws that we have, but I think they are too relaxed and require some overhauling.
Age limiting isn't one that needs changing, semi-auto high powered weapons in un-trained would be a good start.

Australia still has regular shootings, their approach has had fuck all impact on gun crime. Regardless of type of firearm.

Originally Posted by Natatale

This is the same debate that we had in Oz, before some dick decided to kill 36 people with a semi auto 7.62. Soon made everybody realise that military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.
So while America keeps on having mass shootings and we have people killing each other here, then the media will take every advantage to make headlines. We are so lucky with the gun laws that we have, but I think they are too relaxed and require some overhauling.
Age limiting isn't one that needs changing, semi-auto high powered weapons in un-trained would be a good start.

So you reckon if we get rid of them, we won't have mass killings, or when we do, the shooter will kill people at a more acceptable rate, with something else?

I just don't buy into the MSSA's are evil debate. It only takes one crazy person to point one loaded single shot rifle at an individual and pull the trigger for there to be a tragic loss of life. Now ask yourself, how many times could an accomplished handler do that before being overcome. If the crazy can do it multiple times then you have a mass murder. MSSA's or firearms of any kind are not the problem.

Originally Posted by Moutere

Australia still has regular shootings, their approach has had fuck all impact on gun crime. Regardless of type of firearm.

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

please define a high powered weapon? .50BMG .600 nitro?
Aussie has more gun crime than nz.

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

When was the last time there was a mass shooting in New Zealand?

Originally Posted by Dan88

please define a high powered weapon? .50BMG .600 nitro?
Aussie has more gun crime than nz.

Yeah and there are a few million more Aussies so compare things in the right perspective, and can you quote me the gun death figures for both countries ???
And tell me what the fuck do you need with a semi auto 7.62, would you use it to stop a charging mob of goats from killing you ???
There are places for these types of weapons and NZ doesn't really need them !!

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

In my experience, I'd say there is an agravated shooting most weeks in Sydney alone.
You have quite a pesimistic view of our sport.