Thread: Media Firearms beat-up continues

Should the age someone can get a firearms licence be raised? - Opinion - NZ Herald News

There is absolutely a concerted effort within the media to keep firearm issues (or should I say "issues") at the forefront of public debate. I feel they are clutching at straws now and almost detect a sense of frustration.

It is interesting that the greater weight of opinion is against them in the responses

This is like having a boat spring a leak and you decide to regular engine maintenance that you did 2 weeks ago. Completely useless and just keeping preocupided so you don't have to think about the real problem.

As one great lady has said....

Beauty fades...dumb is forever....
Convert the saying into firearms lingo and you get,...

Raise the age....dumb is forever....

It ain't gonna fix dumb !

I thought that with the win in the rugby over the week end those idiots would be off our back for a few more weeks....
But no:-(

This is the same debate that we had in Oz, before some dick decided to kill 36 people with a semi auto 7.62. Soon made everybody realise that military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.
So while America keeps on having mass shootings and we have people killing each other here, then the media will take every advantage to make headlines. We are so lucky with the gun laws that we have, but I think they are too relaxed and require some overhauling.
Age limiting isn't one that needs changing, semi-auto high powered weapons in un-trained would be a good start.

Originally Posted by Natatale

This is the same debate that we had in Oz, before some dick decided to kill 36 people with a semi auto 7.62. Soon made everybody realise that military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.
So while America keeps on having mass shootings and we have people killing each other here, then the media will take every advantage to make headlines. We are so lucky with the gun laws that we have, but I think they are too relaxed and require some overhauling.
Age limiting isn't one that needs changing, semi-auto high powered weapons in un-trained would be a good start.

Australia still has regular shootings, their approach has had fuck all impact on gun crime. Regardless of type of firearm.

Originally Posted by Moutere

Australia still has regular shootings, their approach has had fuck all impact on gun crime. Regardless of type of firearm.

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

When was the last time there was a mass shooting in New Zealand?

Originally Posted by Beavis

When was the last time there was a mass shooting in New Zealand?

February 1997 6 dead and 4 wounded
December 2001 3 dead
They may not be on the scale of Port Arthur, but still listed as mass killings.

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

In my experience, I'd say there is an agravated shooting most weeks in Sydney alone.
You have quite a pesimistic view of our sport.

T

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

Thank you for wanting to sacrifice other peoples firearms privileges because you feel uncomfortable about semi autos. Thankfully you are the minority. You just stated we are lucky to have the laws we have and you advocate giving them away. Sod having laws anywhere like Aussie. Joe Stalin would find them oppressive.

Originally Posted by Natatale

I'm sorry when was the last mass shooting ?? Did I miss something, I think it's gone a long way to make Oz a lot safer. There will always be shootings, get rid of guns totally, and the they will stab each other, take knives away they will stone each other.
We as humans are bloody dangerous creatures, always have been, and always will be, but limit to what we kill each other with, surely it will help the innocent bystanders from being shot in MASS. !!!

Not sure about mass shooting but the other week some bloke wearing pajamers walked into the police HQ, followed someone out and then shot them with a pistol. The fact that someone can get their hands on one of the most restricted weapons in one of the tightest gun control countries makes proves that the whole thing is pointless.

Originally Posted by Natatale

This is the same debate that we had in Oz, before some dick decided to kill 36 people with a semi auto 7.62. Soon made everybody realise that military style semi-auto weapons aren't safe in civilian hands, they were made for War and Killing on mass.
So while America keeps on having mass shootings and we have people killing each other here, then the media will take every advantage to make headlines. We are so lucky with the gun laws that we have, but I think they are too relaxed and require some overhauling.
Age limiting isn't one that needs changing, semi-auto high powered weapons in un-trained would be a good start.

So you reckon if we get rid of them, we won't have mass killings, or when we do, the shooter will kill people at a more acceptable rate, with something else?